Journal - from traditional sex life to ???

Something that some of our wives just don't understand. Its just something that is so very contrary to what most of us were brought up with. But so very naughty, intoxicating, and ultimately sexy to us husbands who wish to give our wives the best sex possible.

With your wife initiating things lately, maybe she feels bad about the last blow up you two had. But then again...who knows. I truely think that the man who figures out women, writes a book about it...will be the richest man in the world.

No matter what...its never bad to have your wife initiating sex. Your wife really loves you...and it shows.

I just rediscovered a thread about the first time a wife kisses her lover. You and I posted on it. Anyway, you mentioned a friend that use to come over once in a while. What about trying to set something up with that friend coming over? I was thinking, if you still are in contact with him, go out for a few beers with him. Later, when you two have had a few beers, somehow slip in that you wouldn't mind seeing your wife kiss/have sex/...etc...with some other guy. Somehow, I am not sure, how to bring it up...but you know where I am going with this. If he bites on the idea, he might be able to work with you on seducing your wife.

Think it might work?

Allen,
Thanks for the suggestion. I have thought about that (every time he came over and kissed her) but I dont get a good vibe about it. I think it would freak him out. He really likes her, but I dont think he would do it. Plus, his mister is the same age as my mister and I think there is too much risk that people would find out.

But thanks anyway. I appreciate you thinking of me (or should I say "her").

You are very welcome.

I can see how that might mess things up. This cuckolding thing can be such a pain in the ass.

Idea!? What about setting up a babysitter. Then tell your wife to meet you after work someplace...a sports bar/grille. Tell her to wait at the bar. Then work with that guy you met on craigslist to also be at that sports bar/grille. Its a very public place. For some reamister you show up late...maybe 20 min? Thus giving him time to meet your wife and talk with her. When you show up, you chat with him a little. He informs you and your wife he is on a blind date.

After you and your wife excuse yourselves to go eat, he just sits at the bar. Waiting for his date..

After you two eat, you tell your wife..."lets shoot some pool"...or "play darts". After a short time, your friend at the bar is still alone...he is looking at his phone, watch...etc. You tell your wife, "I feel bad for that guy, I am going to ask him to (shoot pool) or (darts)...etc.

You know where I am going with this...get her to know him, maybe...?

Allen,
That is sort of along the lines of what I have discussed with this guy, Rob.

I feel I still need to do some ground work with her first. We need to watch a little more porn and I need to finally have the threesome conversation (with a guy).

Sometimes I feel like we are close and sometimes I feel like its a million miles away.

Babysitter? Haha, my kids are a little old for that. I dont think my 17 year old would appreciate that. Hmmm, maybe he would if shes cute.

By the way, I am locked in my chastity device again. We are playing a little game with the baseball playoffs. Last night the Giants (our team) lost to the Phillies and so I got locked up. It doesnt come off until the Giants win. We havent made all the rules yet. Not sure what willl happen if the Phillies win the rest of the games. I guess it stays on until next year, haha.

I suppose you are right about the babysitting thing. Maybe a hot tutor for your mister would work? I remember having a crush on two high school interns...I stayed after school sometimes for extra help. I never did get the "extra help" I was really looking for.

Anyway, I really do think that the way you are taking this is the best. It might take longer to reach your goal (which you my never reach...unfortunately), but by going this route, I think you lessen the risk of hurting your wife or making her really mad.

I don't usually follow baseball...our local team (Brewers) are terrible. Not much to root for here. Hopefully your wife is extra naughty and keeps you locked up.

Sorry I havent been around the site lately. Have been very busy.

The Giants chastity game was fun but they won most of their games so I guess I got lucky.

Nothing much else to report with my wife. Its been kinda slow because of some health issues and a very busy work schedule. This week I am planning on finally breaking out the big realistic silicone dildo and seeing if that can make her come. Hopefully we will give it a nice masculine name.

Im not sure if I mentioned this or not but I opened a fake Facebook account and met a bunch of people into cuckolding. I had some EXTREMELY interesting and erotic conversations before Facebook deleted my account. Bastards. I even went so far as to send a picture of my wife to a black bull in London. He has given me a step-by-step guide to get my wife interested in and eventually spreading her legs for BBC! I am still communicating with him via email but I think he is frustrated that it is taking so long for me to implement his suggestions. Maybe I'll post our conversation on here.

I also met a woman from Utah who has never had sex with her husband and cuckolds him several times a week with BBC only! I had some extremely interesting conversations with her. She started out very nice and kind, asking lots of questions and giving me advice. Eventually, her advice got very intense. She started giving me instructions, almost orders, on things to do to get my wife interested in BBC. She said she wanted the sex I gave my wife to be so unfulfilling that she wouldnt even want me inside her. She wanted me to introduce IR porn and comment about the potential size of black cock whenever we saw a black man in public. It was a lot of fun to talk to her but now that my FB account got closed, I have no way to contact her.

Finally, I met a very exciting woman from somewhere in Texas I think. She is recently divorced and very interested in meeting someone who wants to be cuckolded. She wants to start slow, dating someone, and falling in love with the guy. Then, after they have fallen in love, she wants to start talking about introducing a lover. She is very real and very exciting. If I wasnt already married...haha. Anyway, she wants to have a cuckold wedding and everything! We was really into the foot fetish and making her man suck another mans cock. Unfortunately, most of my conversations with her were lost when FB deleted my account. Bastards. I do have her email and will be keeping in touch with her to follow her story.

Thats all for now.

As you know, I have been talking with a potential bull named Rob the past few months about cuckolding. He responded to a Craigslist ad that I posted about my desire for my wife to take a lover a cuckold me. After many emails, I have concluded that he would be a great permister to enjoy this lifestyle with. My fantasies seem to align with his, he will respect my wife and my marriage, he's fairly local, and he has a significantly larger cock than I do. I have a good "vibe" about him.

At the recommendation of my good friend Allen (Neighbors Hot Tub) I sent Rob an emailing telling him I am ready to meet him. In the email I told him that I was very nervous because he knew all my fantasies and desires. He has yet to respond (he has been traveling and I dont think this is his primary email address).

Anyway, the idea is to meet so that I can make sure he is the guy I think he is and to discuss the next steps towards making this happen.

Anyway, even though I am scared to death right now, I am excited to be doing something about this. Hopefully there will be cuckolding in my future.

One other thing. A couple of months ago Rob told me that he had a 7" cock with a 6.5" circumference. I am 6" long with a 5" circumference. I made two paper tubes at each of our sizes and placed them next to my monitor at work that I can look at every day. If you work out the math, he is almost exactly twice as big as me (by volume)!

Update:
I just got an email from Rob, my wifes potential future lover. He's out of town until Monday but we are going to meet next Wednesday after work to discuss the situation.

I will have to endure almost a weeks worth of butterflies in my stomach! Argggggg!

Not to get off topic, but how did Facebook find out your profile was fake? I have had a profile for over a year that says I am a Labrador.

Your tube would easily fit inside his tube... Imagine what he would do to your wifes pussy! Fucking her right after him...of course you would have to clean her first, but wow! That my friend would/will be one of the best feelings you will ever experience.

I dig the tubes idea. Subtle reminder of something very hot!

Cuckjay,
Facebook said it disared my account because I ***d their policies. I must have requested the wrong permister to be my friend and they reported me. It is actually one of Facebooks policies that you cant request to be friends with people you dont know.

Allen,
You are so right! Sometimes at work I'll play with the tubes, putting mine inside his just to marvel at how much bigger his tube is than mine. I had a discussion with a bull recently who told me that in his experience the wifes pussy will stretch to accomodate him to the point that she no longer got much enjoyment from her husband. Wouldnt that be exciting if they were able to be together often enough that she would stretch for him?

Ted,
It is hot isnt it? The idea just popped in my head one day.

Update: I have still not met Rob. He seems to be extremely busy and we have postponed our meet until next week. Although he seems like a great guy, Im getting worried he wont have the time to truly explore cuckolding with.

I hope everything works out ok for you. The time and (not to sound all wimpy here) emotion you have put into this so far is significant. It would be a kick in the balls to lose that.

Keep trying, don't give up just yet. He might come around yet, but then again without knowing exactly what he is thinking can make this a lot harder on you.

I am sure you will make all the right decisions as this goes either forward or not.

Good luck in the coming weeks...maybe a Christmas present is in the works for you...a creamy one!

Hello friend,

How are things. Been some time since you have graced the forum with your thoughts and any new updates. Anything new and exciting?

Yes, there have been some new developments. When I get time I will have to update this thread. Im not sure if I can remember all the details.

Teasing is not fair. Looking forward to that update.

Sorry its taken me so long to update this thread.

There has actually been some major developments in my life recently, although not as one might expect. In the next few posts, I fill you in with some small things that happened the past few months and then I will explain the major one.

Looking forward to hearing the updates.

Ok, I think the last time I posted, I was talking about meeting Rob, a guy I had been talking to about fucking my wife. He kept postponing because of the holidays until he finally agreed to meet in January. He told me he would email me the following day with details of when he would be available. He never emailed and I didnt contact him again. I think he got cold feet.

So I contacted another guy named Kevin who was also interested. I found him at the same time as Rob but chose Rob because he seemed like he would be a better fit. After a couple weeks of emailing, I met with Kevin at a local coffee shop. He's actually a really nice guy who was very interested in helping create a situation where we could all meet and maybe hit it off with my wife. Of course I also needed to make it clear to my wife my fantasy of having a threesome. Kevin is still waiting for me to contact him.

Then there was another guy named Brian that I recently contacted through Craigslist. He was really looking for a couple to explore domination/presentation in conjuction with cuckolding. I talked to him quite a few times on the phone. He was also a very nice guy who understood about boundaries and believed this was about having fun and growing the marriage, rather than harming it. I liked Brian but he wanted something a little different than what I wanted. He didnt just want my wife. He wanted me as well. Im not sure that will work out. He is still waiting for me to contact him as well.

What else? Oh yeah, I gave my wife that BIG dildo at Christmas. I have used it on her a few times since then but she didnt take to it like I had hoped. She may subconciously feel like she would be slighting me if she expressed how much she liked it. Im not sure. I explained that I didnt have any dildo jealousy.

One day I was just looking through Craigslist ads and I came upon one in the platonic section from a girl who was bored at work and just awanted someone to email and pass the time with. Feeling brave, I contacted her and we started emailing. She's a young 24 year old, married 8 months, who was very sweet. She had great emails, talking about her husband, her dogs, her life, etc. It was a lot of fun getting to know her. She also was very sexually open and told me all kinds of things she had tried and wanted to try. The emails werent inappropriate, just explicit. She enjoyed being dominated by her lovers and most recently by her husband. I asked her lots of questions and learned a lot. Its amazing how much a 45 year old guy can learn from a 24 year old girl.

Anyway, I started to get the idea that maybe I was going about introducing cuckolding to my wife the wrong way. Maybe I shouldnt be submissive toward her. maybe I should be dominant with her and see if that could get her to be more sexually adventurous. She told me once that her fantasy was to be taken by a strong man. So, I approached her and she was excited about it. I asked my new friend for some advice and used it that night with my wife.

First, I blindfolded her. Then i told her to raise her hands above her head and to keep them there while I gave her oral. If she lowered her hands, she would be punished. She did really well until the phone rang and she had to answer it. After the phone call, I spanked her playfully and then tied her wrists to the bedposts as punishment. Then I sat on top of her and fed her my cock. She was still blindfolded at this point. I just put my cock against her lips and she opened up. It was awesome! She was extremely turned on. Then I fucked her good and hard. She loved the agressive style and told me afterwards that it was one of the hottest times she had ever had.

We've done a couple more similar things. I want to start incorporating more pain, like nipple clamps. As my new friend explained, when she is really turned on, a little bit of pain feels GREAT!

Now thats a great update! It might be just as simple as a threesome with your wife. Two men, being men, but working with the other guy to have slight moments of cuckoldry.

Before I go on with our update I have to make a few things clear. First, no marriage is perfect. We all make mistakes, have stupid arguments, let our mates down, etc. Im not sure how I portrayed my marriage on this site. It is very easy on a site like this to just post the sexual stuff, right? Thats why we are all here. The problem is that the bad parts, or the normal boring details of our marriages dont really get talked about.

Anyway, I cant rememeber what all I have said about my wife. But the truth is that we have been having sexual problems for at least ten years. Its mostly related to her lack of desire and reluctance to initiate sex. But there were also times when she refused sex all together. I remember going months without any physical contact. Im not talking about erotic chastity or being denied in a teasing way. Im talking about refusal to have sex or to be intimate causing me to feel unloved and unwanted. I have to admit that sometimes things are really good. But other times are very bad and difficult. This up and down cycle between good and bad has been going on for the past ten years.

I am posting this because I needed to give everyone this background for my next post.

Waiting for the update.

Sorry for the delay. I have been out of town and then was crazy busy at work.

As I have elluded to, I have experienced some significant changes over the past month or so. It has been completely unexpected and has really thrown me for a loop. What I am going to say may sound really strange and out of character with my other postings.

Like I siad before, my wife and I have been struggling with certain things over the past 10 years or so. A lot of it had to do with some permisteral issues that she had to deal with which caused her to withdraw somewhat from our marriage and especially sex. There were a lot of arguments and talks about it. Sometimes she would get better and other times she didnt want anything to do with me. I ended up turning more and more to porn and that is where I first started reading about cuckolding. Over the last couple of years things have gotten a lot better but so has my desires for her to be with other men. Eventually, I decided to work hard towards making it happen. In my mind I could see how a new and exciting relationship could jumpstart her desires again and that we could all enjoy a very exciting time with this lifestyle.

Like I said, sometimes she is really good and then she slips back to the old problems again. About a month ago we started having those problems again. In desperation, through a Craigslist ad, I contacted a woman and we started emailing. We emailed a lot, and became very attracted to each other. She was seeing other men as well, looking for someone who she could see more seriously. We talked a lot about meeting up but I didnt really want to cheat on my wife. She ended up meeting a guy who she really liked and they started having a LOT of sex. The strangest thing happened to me. I started to get extremely jealous and I really had to ground myself to keep from letting the jealousy get the best of me. Im fine now, but I really learned a lot about myself that I didnt know before.

What I learned was that if I could feel that way about someone I only knew for a couple of weeks, I would be a wreck if it was my wife. The other thing that has started to become crystal clear is that this lifestyle just doesnt match my wifes permisterality. I guess Ive known this for a while but I kept trying to convince myself that she could grow to like it. I have come to the realization that if we were to go down this path, it would probably ruin our marriage and our relationship.

I feel bad that my thread has ended up like this. Im sure everyone out there was hoping for a different outcome. The fantasy is still very much there for me, but I just cant let my marriage fail just to fulfill a fantasy.

Meanwhile, I am still enjoying this online relationship with this woman. Its a very strange relationship with a lot of flirting and sexual discussions, IM chats, phone calls and phone sex. But at the same time, she is encouraging me in my relationship with my wife. last week, at her urging, I had sex with my wife 4 times. I cant remember the last time we did that.

You have always kept a level head throughout your process with this. Its funny how things seem to be going so well, then like a door...slams shut.

Take what you can from the other woman, it seems to be working with your wife. Keep your head up, and I hope things keep going well.

An excellent, realistic post. I actually had a similar thing.. I ended up falling in love with the other woman, and, frankly, still love her. Ultimately she gave me an ultimatum, which I couldn't accept because I couldn't leave my wife. But just like you, I was privy to all her sexual adventures, and it was enough to make me insane with jealousy. She was/is literally the hottest little blonde college girl you can imagine. But now we don't talk anymore.. after 2 years, she entered a serious relationship, and her and her BF agreed that in order to progress, she'd have to cut off things with me.

Best wishes to you and whatever you end up doing in your life.