Desires to watch.

I started my first sexual relationship with my first girlfriend when I was eighteen. She was slightly younger and we were still in highschool at the time. Because we lived with our parents and she was a "good girl" we couldn't be together that often and we started talking sexually on the phone. At first it was exciting to just hear her talk dirty and to hear her masterbate really turned me on. But as time went on we kept upping it and upping it to keep it exciting. In the course of the conversations we talked about turn ons and fanstasies. In the course of this I discovered it was a real turn on to think of her with another guy, often one of my good friends and we'd discuss it and talk dirty about it during sex.

When that relationship ended I didn't have this fantasy except the times I thought back on her. Casual relationships found no desire for this fantasy, I think it was exciting enough to be with someone new. And when I got married, we got dirty right away but this fantasy didn't resurface for quite some time. Part of it might be that my wife admitted to me that she had sexual fantasies about women, she would share eroica, and she let me photograph her and we even had sex in Italy with an open window where we could be seen. But as our relationship became more emotionally attached and as other things started to become more important than our lust for each other, such as family and kids and work and whatever, I started fantasizing about her with other men.

I am not gay or bisexual by any means, and also not homophobic, but just to be clear this is not about some sexual identity issue for me. While I think there is a turn on to feeling somewhat submissive, it wouldn't be sexy if there wasn't a connection and trust. What's a turn on is that she's MY wife and as my wife she is my favorite sex thing. While I look at porn I don't have very real fantasies about other women because I would never want to hurt my wife. But I get turned on by the idea of my wife as some sort of sexual Barbie doll that could be my own permisteral porn star. There are times I feel takes with the desire to see her get fucked. But I have no desire to be humiliated (unless it was in a safe and private way like tease) or to lose control on the situation beyond my abiity to get it back. While I like the idea of her indulging in her desires for someone else, by no means does that mean I feel submissive passed a particular role in particular situations. Sex is only part of our relationship and this fantasy is only part of my sex life. And in no way would is this something that I'd want anyone to know about outside of us.

That said, I do have a serious desire for her to fuck someone else. It would be great if it is something I could watch and would even arrange it but it would be exciting enough just to be able to hear about it afterwards.

She says it's something that would never happen and acts uncomfortable when I bring up the fantasies. Although there have been times, when we took a trip away from the kids, or when she got a little tipsy, where she got into these fantasies during sex and has even admitted to me that she's fantasized about one of my friends (and actually about my friend's wife too but I knew that years earlier because she's more comfortable talking about her lust for her than her lust for other guys). She's also admitted to fantasizing about an old boyfriend she has lingering feeling for (which I'm generally not threatened by because I have lingering feelings too for old girlfriends, but they don't pose any real threat for my wife).

I get the sense that my wife A) feels like it would be improper or make her a bad mom or something like that to be sexually adventurous (despite her fantasies of other women she has no ambition to do anything about it) and B) feels like she would be betraying me if she let herself openly lust, let along fuck, other men.

Still, even if it wouldn't happen, and I don't know if the reality would be like a fantasy, more baggage and awkwardness, but I'd at least like to get her more comfortable with it so we could enhance our sexual relationship and be more expressive again.

Does anyone have any serious suggestions?

I hear much of what you are saying. I feel the same way about my wife. Any porn that I watch usually center's around my fantasy for her. Not really interested in other girls.

Every relationship is different. For us it started with my digression, then hers, which had an unusual side effect of really turning me on. I made her tell me all about her past encounters prior to me, and with/during me. It was clear to her what turned me on, and to her credit she enjoyed being a slut on occassions, however she shares similar traits with your wife about the guilt thing, as do we all. My recommendation to you is focus on her slutty past. There may be a treasure trove there for you. As far as future encounters, she needs to have that all important "slutty" side of her permisterality. If she does you need to tap it somehow. Need more info on her permisterality, and her desires to make a recommedation there. Tough call on the very basic info you have given. I understand your wants and desires, believe me, but need more info on her, and you to have an informed opinioned.

Good luck!

We discovered my Wifes hidden sexual side by talking... communication is always the key to understanding her true feelings and desires. But it requires patience and a lot of hard work to break down all of the walls that have been building since she was a young. You must understand that we live in a society that condemns Womens sexual freedom, while Mens is applauded.

One day by chance we were in the car driving, listening to a radio talk show and a woman called in and discussed at length her relationship with her husband who apparently was not very interested in sex wit her. While she herself had what I would call an ideal sexual appetite for a woman. Basically she was more or less horny most of the time and she constantly craved sex and fantasized about sexual freedom. She constantly masturbated and longed for more sexual satisfaction.

At this point we started to discuss how unfair our society in general is towards Women in this regard. Men being looked upon with admiration for their sexual conquests and women being looked upon as sluts and in a very poor light should they be found to partake in such conquests.

After much discussion we came to agreement on the basic fact that Men and Women are basically the same. We think and more or less feel the same about sex but because of society and upbringing. Men grow up and look at sex very differently than women. Women are raised to look at sex at a means to procreation and that they should be with one man and that women that are with more than one man are sluts.

All the while the Women who are experiencing the same sexual desires as us either suppress them or end up having elicit relationships behind there spouses back.

So we openly discussed the fact that this was hippo critical. She finally agreed and brought to my attention a few friends of her who had confided such relationships with her. I then asked her if she would be honest with me and tell me if this had ever happened to her or that if it did in the future would she tell me.

She then asked me how I would react if she desired such a relationship. I told her that it all depended on the situation. I told her that if I was secure in my relationship and that if it was merely a sexual thing that I would be fine with it. I also told her that the most important thing would be honesty about it. If I was to find out on my own that probably I would be hurt. But otherwise I would be fine and that I might even enjoy it.

I think she was very much surprised at my reaction and asked more questions. I took this as a good sign and continued to open up to her about it. I told her that I was not sure why but that the idea seemed somewhat arousing to me. I then nervously took a risk and point blank asked her. Have you done something I should know about? I promised to her that I would not be angry and that it was ok to be honest.

She got quiet for what seemed a long time and finally told me that she became friendly with a coworker and that they had kissed and eventually he invited her to his house at which time she gave him a blow job and he played with her pussy. I tried to remain calm and not seem upset and asked her how long ago it had happened. She told me it had been a long time and that she no longer spoke to him. When she told me who it was I knew that he had taken another job and no longer worked there. I told her I was happy she was able to be honest with me. She asked me if I was ok and I told her everything was fine and that I was relieved that she was a what I consider to be a normal permister with a healthy sexual appetite.

I asked her if there was anything else to tell and she told me that another coworker she had become friendls with was cute and that he frequently flirted with her but that she still felt bad about the previous incident so she tried to ignore him.

I asked her if she really thought he was cute and asked if she would consider playing with him with my permission. She said to me that he really was cute and that she would love to play around with him but that she never really thought about it too much as she did not think it was a good idea all around...

At this point I figured what do I have to lose so I went for broke and asked her if she wanted to ask him over sometime. She turned red and said "No way... are you serious?" I replied to her that yes I was. I told her why not? I asked her if she was comfortable with our relationship. And she said of course. So I asked her to give me a reamister why she would not give it a try. She said in the first place that she would be too embarrassed to ask him over and that she was worried that even if he did that if it got out at work that it would be bad.

I then assured her that if her coworker was flirting with her that it was about 99.9% certain that if she asked him over that he would probably be there before she hung up the phone. She laughed and said maybe... As for the possibility of it coming out at work. I asked her if she thought she could trust him. She said absolutely. I told her that she would have to make it clear to him if he did want to play around that he would have to keep it to himself and that it was strictly for some physical fun and that if she caught wind of him saying anything that it would be over and she would deny it.

She agreed and said the she was sure he would go along. at this point I figured we were there! I told her to either call him of talk to him on break and invite him over. She again asked if I was sure it would be ok. I reassured her and told her that it was up to her but that I thought that she should trust me enough to believe that I would be ok with her enjoying herself and that I was totally ok with our relationship. She smiled and said she would think about it.

A few days later I nonchalantly asked if she had seen him or talked to him at all and she told me that he had given her his number but that she had not said anything specific to him about what we talked about.

I asked her if she felt adventurous enough to call him. She said nervously that maybe if she had a couple of takes. I immediately went and opened a bottle of wine and we each drank a couple of glasses. After she finished the second glass I handed her the phone and said to her "you only live once" she smiled and blushed a little but she went and got the number from her purse and came back and sat down with me and dialed the number.

I could tell she was nervous as hell but she made some small talk with him and finally blurted out "Hey do want to come over for a while?" I could only hear one side of the conversation but it was late at this point and I knew what he had said by her response. "I'm sure it's fine, and he won't be home for at least 3 hours. He got stuck late at work besides he always calls when he's on is way. She then explained how to get to our house and said "Ok I'll see you in a few minutes. Call me when you are on my street so I can open the door for you ."

When she hung up the phone we were both like wow! She asked again if I was ok with it and I told her that since we didn't have time to set down any rules so to speak that I would feel better if I could tape it to keep everything in the open. She agreed but wasn't sure if he would be ok with the video. I told her I could hide the camera and that he didn't have to know. No one else would ever see it and she said why not, so we both started scrambling.

I put my car in the garage and set the camera up quickly and quickly hid it as best I could in our family room. She had gone up to change and came back wearing a red silk outfit I had bought her for Valentines day. Shorts and a skimpy top. She asked me if this was ok and I said I'm pretty sure he'll like it. She asked me one last time if I was sure and that it was not too late to call him and tell him to forget it. I told her that it wouldn't be fair to tease him like that. She smiled and said ok. I'll come and get you as soon as he leaves. I kissed her and hugged her and her phone rang...

We both felt like little teenagers scheming our first overnight!l I ran up to my office and locked myself in and began the nerve racking waiting and trying to listening to try and hear what was going on...


Well not to be a tease myself but it's late and I have gotten carried away from your question to which I hope you got my answer, which is basically that with some good communication s*******s and a little luck if you might get lucky. Just make sure you are 100% sure this is what you want. I have to tell you that it is not for everyone but we have found it very satisfying. It has renewed our sex lives and our very relationship and friendship to a level I never though possible.

If you want to hear more and maybe see some pics, I still have the video and can get some screen caps. Let me know how it goes for you and yours, and best of luck. If I can answer any questions please feel free to ask.

You bet! Of course we would like to hear the rest, and to see - even better! Sounds like you have it made; it must have been nerve wracking waiting, listening to the silence first then the first sounds ...
Thank you for sharing!
Panos

It's late here now but I will post more tomorrow. In the meantime I already posted some more of our story and a bunch of pics under another topic under Basic Cuckold

https://www.cuckoldplace.com/6_24146_0.html

Thanks and I hope my advice and story is helpful. We have many experiences to relay and I have been lucky enough to tape many of them and take some digital pics.

I will continue on with our story tomorrow...

Gee thanks! She really looks hot!
Panos

A couple of quick pics to try and show you how hot she really is... sorry but I can't post any face pics as we both have high profile jobs but I think you'll get the idea...

Thanks for your interest Panos!

Definitely hot... a sexy lithe body made for fucking.

Is she into BBC yet or just the dark toy? ;)

Not really sure SNJ... It's never really come up or happened yet to be honest. Not really sure how she would react. We have done 2 blindfold parties where she had 2 guys each time, but never saw who they were so they could have been anyone. Here are a couple of pics from one of those sessions.

Stalker
wonderful pictures stalker my dream to see my wife doing that
r smith

WOW! Your wife is SUPER HOT !! Got hard looking at ther pix. If she will do it blindfolded she will also do it without the blindfold. The blindfold lets her maintain a sense of decency & privacy, but once she has learned to go into slut-wife mode (as she soon will, no doubt!) she will do it with no problem. Looks like you are in for many wonderful moments with such a beautiful & sexy woman.

The blindfold was just that night because it was 2 guys. When we have 3somes she uses no blindfold.

We met a new guy tonight and she was in rare form!

You can read my posting about it here:

https://www.cuckoldplace.com/7_5432_2.html