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What are some signs she might be cheating?

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wrathchild

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I have been having some job problems over the last month or two (mainly that I havent had one..Im working on that.) and my sex drive hasnt been the greatest over the last few years. Lately my wife has been working out a lot more, and dieting a lot more, and now is at work 2-3 hours late every night, and often goes in on the weekend. She hasnt started buying any new sexy lingerie or anything like that, but isnt as affectionate towards me since this all started with her working late. Anytime I try to call her during those later nights, it is often an hour or more till she answers her phone, and most of the time she calls me back having never answered. There is always an excuse that she was in a co-workers office (female) and didnt have her phone with her.

I have checked up on her twice now on weekend days when she said she was going in to the office, and she was indeed there and in the building. I also know that her line of work is 98% women, 1% gay men, 1% straight men, and they are almost always married (which doesnt mean they wont fuck other women)

She is also one of those women who has historically been 100% faithful to all her other boyfriends, and I know up until at least the last 6 months or so, faithful to me. She has a "if I wanted to be with someone else I would leave you" philosophy, which could have changed and just be a cover now.




Is there a real chance she may have a lover, or am I just paranoid due to lowish self esteem from the whole unemployed/not making her happy at home thing, or is it just wishful thinking? The thought of her cheating turns me on a LOT, so maybe its just a combination of all of the above?
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sissiboy

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Check her mobile. My wife always deletes her recieved messages but didn't delete the sent ones so I was able to get my suspicions confirmed. On sunday night I read a message she sent on Saturday; "Stuck here with hubby and really missing you, cat wait to see you on Monday.xx". i got hard striaght away!
Montreal Dom

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Here are some signs:

1) She shouts another guy's name when you're fucking her.
2) She shouts your name when another guy is fucking her.
3) She says she loves your big black dick ... and you're white.
4) She says she loves your big white dick ... and you're black.
5) She says she loves your big dick ... and you've got four inches.
6) She forgets her panties at work.
7) She forgets her panties when she goes to work.
8) She comes home from work with a sore mouth.
9) She comes home from work with sores on her mouth.
10) She cums at work.

wrathchild

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Montreal that is CLASSIC. lol.

I just copied it and forwarded it to like 4 people.
clive anthony

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check her panties in the washing hamper thats a give a way i hard and full of semen [not yours ] well sorry shes playing away.
as i am unable to satisfy her i let my wife have her lovers.
Montreal Dom

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Hey, I'm on the good side of good looking, but only average. So my thick dick and humour have to make up for it. And that's an original I posted.
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I've been in private investigations for many years. The simpliest most least expensive thing you can do is just hook up a simple phone recorder. It turns on automatically when the phone is picked up and is plugged into an extra jack in your home. Run it off batteries and find a jack next to a couch or chair and just shove it under there.

Go to Radio Shack and buy it.

It won't make any detectable sounds for her to know it's there.

Of course, a professional could find it by seeing the voltage drop on the line, the frequency emitted by the recorder running, or by physically seeing it. There are much more sophisticated devices you can get but that one is the quick and dirty solution for the occasional amateur slueth.

But be forewarned, it's my experience that over 90% of people hooking one up end up finding out things that they wish they hadn't.

wrathchild

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The only problem with that is that we dont have a land line. Just our cells.


Here are 2 other problems.
1. She is VERY smart. Was Valedictorian at her undergrad and graduated her Masters in the top 2% of her class, and she is very "street smart". So she is 100% as capable of hiding things as I am in finding them out. Well 99% anyway. I know she wouldnt do it here, and there isnt much point to even bothering with checking her car, as she wouldnt be dumb enough to leave anything there. She is on a business trip right now (I know its a legit trip) and left her purse here minus what she NEEDS, I went through it really well last night and there was nothing. I also checked her car and all her boxes and shoes and such in the closet. So far nothing...
2. She always wears a pad. She is on the pill and this makes her pretty wet, pretty much all the time, she doesnt like the panty stains so she wears a REALLy thin pad all the time. I know this at least didnt start out as a cover up. It obviously would be a handy thing to already be doing though.


If I had a land line and was going to use that I would install it behind the wall plate



Anyway, this is why I am asking for help here. Honestly I kinda doubt she is, but a buddy of mine jokingly said something about her working late all the time, and it got me thinking. I think its a combination of me being paranoid and wishful thinking, but I want to be sure. All I ask, if she IS doing it, is either tell me about it, even better, tell me about it while I am fucking her, or best case, do it in front of me.
It can be anyone, even if they arent bigger and better than me (I have an ok sized dick, 7.5 hard with a nice curve). I just want to see her enjoying another mans cock. Black or white. Although there is something about a thick black cock sliding in and out of a nice white pussy that is so hot.
My favorite pic to jerk off to is this one I found of this black guy, on top of a white girl, all you see if the top of her hair (she has the same hair color of my wife) and her legs wrapped over him, her legs look similar to my wife, and her shoes are identical to the ones my wife wears while fucking (sometimes) but with a different color sole.


I found that one on this forum, somewhere.
cuckforpleasure

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Difficulty walking is a sure sign.
panos_yogi

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Seriously now, my feeling is that she is honest. And, despite the tendency that we all have here to enourage everyone to encourage fucking around, Ithink that this may not be the best time for you to pursue this end (of cuckolding, I mean) since even you say your self-esteem is (understandably) on the low side. So, I would sit low and steady till the rest of my life picks up, then you can always reconsider... Hang in there, my friend!
gandrol

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Look, you really want this, don't you? Well find the right guy from porn, craigslist, or a good friend - there's got to be a guy out there somewhere. Then all three of you get real tight, dinners together, dancing, a hobby, there must be something. Then a night out, you all have too much to take (or smoke, if that's what you like), then leave them alone for a while: go to bed; fall arelax; take the dog for a walk. Are they fucking yet? Maybe it's the wrong man. It takes patience and cunning to start this going, but if she wants it you can find a way.
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JeffKris

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Why dont you just ask her?

You can always look at her face when she answers for signs that she is lying. Plus she is your wife, you will know if she is telling the truth!

Suprise her at work with some flowers or coffee or supper or whatever, then you will know if she is there also. Mainly though if you do that kind of stuff for her you may both be a little more horny to one another!

And if you really want her to get fucked while you watch, ask her that too!

Buy her some nice toys and bring it up while she is screaming with orgasm if your nervous!

Good Luck!
J & K
astrel

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If her belly is big and round and you KNOW you haven't fucked her in a year...THEN she's cheating for sure!
drfarmer

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JeffKris has the simplest and most straighforward advice. However, you may be surprised with her answer.

This is how I found out about being a cuckold a week ago. In the afterglow of a sexual interlude on the basement couch, we started talking about all the propositions we each have received over the years (we've been married for 29 years) and I said that I assumed she had bitten on some of them. Surprise, she freely admitted right then she had, 25 years earlier, during and after she was pregnant with young number two, bareback, in our bed and elsewhere, and in two different states! I'm not angry that she fucked someone else, but I am angry she did not say so at the time (or since) particularly since we had been talking about threesomes and foursomes and swinging since before her fucking this guy (whom I knew). She has not yet fully fessed up (I'm very sure there have been other men), but will soon if I have anything to do with it. See more details of my situation in the "How did we become Cuckolds" forum here

JeffKris is right. Try the bold "full bore ahead" approach. However she responds, it will be at least a clue. Note: Really smart people tend to be terrible liars. Some of them just tell the blatant truth when cornered.
renelikesit

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get checkmate the semen detection kit, you can use it on her pads that she throws in the rubish, also get a good magnifying glass and take the pads out of the rubish and look for pubic hairs, I tricked my wife into keeping her pussy clean shaven, told her I would do it for her and maintain it as often as she wants, little dose she know that the reamister is.....NOW ANY pubic hairs I find on her pads are HARD evidence!!!!
it's getcheckmate.com
also I have a group on yahoo, see the link above and be sure and read the early messages, many people who join just look at the pics! If you wnat to know more then read the messages!
domscot

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why dont you take her phone and hide it just before she goes to work, she drives off without it then surprise her by going into her workplace with it when she is working late or weekends, also you will have it for a few hours and will see if any texts come arranging any meets etc hope this helps
i wouldnt confront her directly yet as all you will get is the" so you dont trust me" line
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When the wife fessed up the other night to her cheating 25 years ago, she mentioned she was paranoid that I would smell the fucking that went on in the bedroom, so she changed the sheets and washed the bedspread in the middle of the week, more than once, I think. Then she was paranoid that I would wonder why the change of sheets out of the usual pattern and suspect something. I didn't suspect, of course, mainly because I was distracted by the miserable job situation at the time but also because I was so damned naive at the time (and still, it seems, but quite a bit less so now!)). It was also about this time, looking back, that she started talking more explicitly about sex. And a few years later, suggesting and doing different things in bed, seemingly "out of character" for her. This is where I suspect another man or men not yet admitted to. I believe she will eventually tell me about the other(s) in her own time.

Anyway, look for changes in patterns of her behavior. They are not random, there are always reamisters for them. Then look to the times and places of those changes in the context of your suspicions. Sometimes, they will be more than just clues; They may be the equivalent of her actually telling you things are different, and even why. Apparently, I was not suspicious enough to see the clues she left for me at the time or since. So, don't be so trusting of her in this aspect.

Women cheat every bit as much as men, perhaps more so, according to modern socialogical research and divorce court cases. In fact, most women, as well as most men, cheat on their spouses. They just don't brag about it like we do, at least not the same way. Almost every couple I have known has at least one cheating spouse at some time in their relationship, including my own lady. It seems to be a historical fact.

Learn from my mistake. Assume she is cheating from the start, don't blame her much for it since it is natural for both genders, assume that she assumes you are cheating (my wife did, although I did not in fact bite on any of the many offers I have had (now I wish I had)), take note of the old sage comment "methinks she protests too much" when even a mere hint of a suggestion of cheating arises, and put it all in the context of her behaviour changes.

Well, at least this is my theory. It seems to fit the facts of all the situations about which I am with knowledge.

Interestingly enough, this does fit with a theory about men and women that I read about in the mid 80's in some gentlemen's magazine in a barber shop (and have followed ever since, to great success): All women assume all men are guilty. They may not know about what they are guilty, but "know" the men in their lives are in fact guilty of something. No amount of denial, facts to the contrary, or genuine "goody-two-shoes" good behaviour will ever change their minds about this. So, live with it, and in fact take advantage of it to at least some degree. If this means confessing to something you did not do, then do so. If you confess to a minor infraction you did not do (such as going out takeing with the guys on a Saturday night when you really were at the office doing something constructive), you control the situation by taking advantage of your woman's intrinsic if incorrect suspicions of your guilt. She will be satisfied that she was right all along with her suspicions and consequently become less suspicious of you otherwise, leading to greater harmony in the house. I've done this for 20 years with great success, and have passed this bit of information along to many younger men who were early in their respective relationships with a significant other. My only regret is I should have been a bit more "guilty" given the wife's cheating, so I guess I could have been even more successful at following this theory. Well, at least I know better now and will likely take advantage of it.
whatmecuck

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drfarmer, that is some excellent advice. My wife definitely falls into the category of assuming all men are guilty, and this idea of confirming her suspicion with harmless "guilt" is a fantastic way to disarm her. Thank you!
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Quoting: whatmecuck
drfarmer, that is some excellent advice. My wife definitely falls into the category of assuming all men are guilty, and this idea of confirming her suspicion with harmless "guilt" is a fantastic way to disarm her. Thank you!


My pleasure. Pass it on.
cleanandjerk1

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Just read this thread yesterday and went to RadioShack as suggested.

I just purchased the recorder and await the phone calls.

I was wondering about a GPS tracking device to confirm where she is going etc..

Does anyone have a suggestion on an effective reamisterably inexpensive brand? I'd be happy with a passive type unless an active GPS is around the same price.
Montreal Dom

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Clean, check out some of these new cell phones. By a certain date all cell phones have to have GPS devices installed so that 911 calls can be traced (they obviously know where you are if you're calling from a land line). Buy her one of these for Valentine's Day.
cleanandjerk1

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Thanks I'll look into that option.
domscot

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you can also purchase what is called a spyphone it replaces her existing mobile[cell] uses her existing sim card but will divert all texts to your phone or another cell of your choice..hope this helps
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Quoting: whatmecuck
drfarmer, that is some excellent advice. My wife definitely falls into the category of assuming all men are guilty, and this idea of confirming her suspicion with harmless "guilt" is a fantastic way to disarm her. Thank you!


whatmecuck:

Since you seemed to genuinely appreciate the above advice, I was prompted to go one more this past weekend. See my Feb 11 '07 reply in "How did we become cuckolds?" forum on my method on how to change a woman's mind on some issue that is otherwise "set in concrete."
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Want to know the TRUTH?

Despite what people think, the number one sign that a woman is cheating on her husband is that she STOPS HAVING SEX WITH HIM.

VERY few women go on relaxing with both men.

that's the fact.

So if you're wife is relaxing with you, you can be NEARLY certain she's not cheating.
If she's not having sex with you, then ASK her if she's having an affair.
It's a fair question.
drfarmer

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Quoting: nylimey
Despite what people think, the number one sign that a woman is cheating on her husband is that she STOPS HAVING SEX WITH HIM.

VERY few women go on relaxing with both men.


nylimey, no sex with hubby is certainly a change in one aspect of her pattern of behavior, but it still is only a statement of likelihood. I think I agree it is the most common sign, but it does not describe MY wife's behavior while she was cheating on me, though. We screwed at about the same pace thoughout as compared to before and after the affair.

So, what might be the number two sign (and number three, ...) that she is cheating? What ever they might be (and I would like to know what you and others think they are), I fear they could easily be genuinely innocent signs misinterpreted, leading to other problems in the marriage.
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How many women like there creampie eaten?


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I have to say guys just ask her, she will either say yes or lie, you should be able to tell which one. and if she is, then your next question can I watch.

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experimenter

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Some interesting ideas!

I am such a technophobe i would never even think about using technology. Not that I care as wife and I are open about such matters.

It was interesting that you have job troubles. I know of one couple where the guy was cukolded when his business went bankrupt. I don't need to spell out the theory behind that one!

I am also interested in generalizations about behavior - like the bold assertion that women will only be relaxing with one man at a time. That is simply not true - I know SO many cases to the contrary.
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