Broaching the topic of hotwife or cuckolding with gf

Hi there...I'm pretty new to this site however not new to the thought of a hotwife or cuckoling relationship. After divorce some years ago I was involved in the "swinging" lifestyle for a few years on and off as a single male. In the dating world I was involved in a 1 1/2 yr relationship that gf and I experimented with allowing her to relax with a few men over a period of time and 1 woman. It was fun to say the least, however....I had no interest in relaxing with other women and have NO bi tendencies. That relationship ended badly....

I am now dating a wonderful woman who I love adore and 10 years my senior (I'm 40)....she is very attractive, smart, outgoing, with a genuine shyness around new people and situations. She was married a number of years and recently divorced after a year or so separation. We have been dating a year now (while she was separated) and have fallen into love which I have never felt before. We are both very open and share our thoughts and feelings just about everything. We are just starting to be as open sexually.

Her husband cheated on her several times over their marriage and was contolling and a bit of a sex addict. he encouraged her to flirt with other men and relax with them and share the experience after the evening's tryst. Now we are dating and in a sincere commited relationship and she is learning as am I that I have hotwife/cuckold desires. We have opened the door of her showing herself, flirting, and having sex while other men watch while in the throws of passion through "dirty talk" in the bedroom. It is a big turn on for the both of us as she appears to climax harder and deeper through our "mfm" dirty talk exchange. She will make flirty comments outside of the bedroom such as "bigger is better", "he is a hottie", "stare up and down and hollister poster while licking her lips" etc....it turns me on and I think her to some degree also.

My questions or concerns is that she has also said she does not want to be shared or understand why I would want to share her. I believe at times she Thinks it's a way of me trying to swing and relax with other women (which I have no interest, I love this woman dearly). She has spoke of fantasys of having sex on the hood of the car while other men watch....and we have ellaborated and expanded upon while having sex. But then I sense confusion or doubt in my sincerity or intentions. Recently she mentioned about going to a single's mingle event separately and me watching other men hitting on her and me trying to pick her up....then the next day appears to get cold feet or almost trying to make me feel quilty for wanting her to follow through with the idea. So I am growing confused....and for the record not pushing the topic. Found that we were using the mfm fantasy a little too often while having sex instead of just enjoying one another and the desire and passion and love we share for one another....so I backed off a little. But we always end up there.....and not always iniated by me. Not sure of she brings up the scenario cuz it gets me hot which excites her or the thought get her more aroused than I imagined but she does not want to share how much so.

So I am getting mixed feelings and signals and looking for advice as how to broach the subject of the seriousness of the fantasy becoming a reality or a woman's perspective as bring up the topic without being intimadated. This is a woman i love dearly and do not want to jeopardize our relationship purely for a sexual desire. But the desire is at times strong and at times feels shared. Any advice???

Certified96

Your situation is very much that same as mine. Me and my gf is grownup people. We have both had serious relations before, and she has also been married to a guy that cheated and ended up hurting her big time at the end

We also talk alot about this in bed. She gets very wet thinking/talking about it. BUT: there is a long way to go: from fantasy to reality

Always remeber: women and men are very different when it comes to isssues like sex. At least for most women, there is a clear connection between love and sex. They cannot see the reamister to have sex with someone they don't like/love (unless the woman uses sex to obtain something...)

A man just fucks. There is few bounderies for a man's sex. The most important is maybe moral issues like not being unfaithful.

For starting up cuckold activities, a woman may very well get into this using her sex to obtain satisfaction for her man, better sex in the relationship (also for her), more attention from her man, and other benefits a cuckold relation brings

So, the differences between women and men in sex may not be the final obstackle

It is all a matter to getting started. She will hesitate because of arguments like (as you wrote): If I do this, you will start fucking other women (or it will at least give you a moral justification to pursue other women)...this is the most traditional argument I believe

Another argument: you do not love me anymore...(connected to the woman's mental connection between sex and love)

I am an optimist. I strongly believe that my gf will go for it one day. But since the first time is the hinder, it must be carefully planned. The right guy. The right situation. The right time. The right place. The right setting for both of us/you. All rules must be clarified: someon we know? someone that can tell other we know (acceptable or not)? here in our city? on holliday? she would like to be alone with the guy? should she stay the night? should she keep me informed? should she just fuck someone on a business trip and tell after? does she want to fuck someone first before I am involved (to check out if she is ready/able to enjoy other men?

And also: after the first time, the man has to be totally devoted. No regrets. No complaints. No accuses. Just lots of attention to her. If you are not man enough to respect this, it will be only one time...or ultimately, it may destroy the relation...

If such rules are not set, and you keep on pushing such ideas into her head, sha may one day in a special situation (maybe a little takes at a party with good friends) do what you definately did not want her to do: fuck someone that may not be the guys you were thinking it should be (maybe someone that will tell others you know...start roumers, etc) under the excuse...sorry my love, but i thought this was what you wanted... If you have not set the rules, and she acts: you have to accept, and appreciate...if not...she will never do it again

Anyway: I know we will get there. And I hope you will get there too

It is all soooooooo hot

Conclusion:
-Don't push
-get her convinced that you do not want her to this because you need moral reamister to pursue other women
-set the rules duing talking in bed...and before the first time
A cuck to my GF - A bull to all other women

...one thing I have been fantazising about, and which may be a way 'in' to all this...is a very light cuckold experience....such as massage

There are some places that offers kind of tantric massages where being naked is a part of it (be aware that most of these places are 'dirty' non trustable joints that I would rather not allow my gf to attend - but there are actually more high quality places that offers such services....)

I am thinking holiday. A nice hotel. A long day at the beach or shopping. Tired. "you know my love, there is a massage room down stairs that could ease you up a bit before dinner"....

(my gf has been into yoga and the like, and is well familiar with all these sorts of relaxetion...(however, she has to my knowledge, not been massaged in such an erotic way....at least she have never told me... :tease

She answer "oh, yes babe, that would have been wonderful"

She call down and orders the service. Before she go she say: "by the way, they only had men there today, so don't get jealous or too exhitet"

Here is what may happend (pics)

And after, she come back up to hotel room and tell about it all. Of course, I would be totally horney, and fuck the cuckolds brownie out of her....before a nice dinner and a good glass of wine
A cuck to my GF - A bull to all other women

I can help you probaly have had alot of exp with this subject with my hotwife.

S0, PM me please
A cuck to my GF - A bull to all other women

We started with the massage idea- too funny.

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