Should we take things a bit further?

For those of you who don’t know my story, my wife and I are about 30 and have been into me being denied and her getting whatever she wants almost since we first met.

I get almost nothing from Anne. I haven’t been inside her mouth in 3(?) years and she rarely touches me with her hand, I don’t get to touch her breasts or see her naked and, although she lets me inside her, sex is really for her benefit. We always do it in the same position, she never goes on top now and she often doesn’t let me make my little mess inside her. Usually she has me go down on her for a while before I have to enter from behind while she is lying down with her back to me.. I still get to kiss her, but just pecks, not properly. I don’t get to “make out” with her.

Anne has a boyfriend, who we met on cuckold chat. She has met him a few times and has had sex with him in a hotel room while I was there, which she liked a lot. However, we haven’t been able to work up to seeing him since then, about a year ago.

Anne also texts her ex a few times a week. She has met him once and stayed over, without me there, and had sex with him all night. They still have a strong emotional bond which makes things more intense. Again, she hasn’t done anything with him for around six months (mainly because he is in a relationship with someone else) except text and flirt.

I am allowed to touch myself but I have to do it using her underwear which she gives me. She washes them every few months. For a while I had to ask her permission before I touched myself. It was so humiliating. Unless you have done that you have no idea what it is like to ask your own wife, in normal life and not when you are both in bed and turned on, if you can have an orgasm.

I have four or five threads of caps which are mostly about what we do or what she would like to do:

https://www.cuckoldplace.com/27_70633_1.html


Now we are trying to get things started up again. She is going to start emailing her boyfriend again etc. She likes the idea of making me do things with other guys and that will happen the next time we meet her boyfriend. We talked the other night and she thinks it would be hot if whenever she sent me a picture of a guy I had to look at it when I touched myself. Then I would have to email her and tell her how it made me feel. She also thinks it would be hot if she got me a dress to wear for whenever I touch myself.

I would hate both of these things but having no option but to do it would also turn me on of course.

It seems a big, big step. I now know there are things I will never, ever get from my own wife and I have to deal with that because I am not a real man like her boyfriend. Now I will soon have to accept that I sometimes won’t get to look at or think about women when I touch myself and if she gets into it she could easily send me so many pictures that I would never be able to think of or look at a picture of a woman again when I cum.

It scares me that I will have to become even more submissive and give up so much but…all I want to do is beg her to do it.

Does anyone have any thought/opinions? If you don't want to reply on here you can email me at [email protected]

Do it, it sounds like an exciting next step. Thanks for sharing and keep us posted.

Thanks for all comments.

I have just been allowed to go down on Anne. She also let me inside her but pushed me out before I finished.

She said she was going to email me tomorrow and maybe include a picture of a guy for me to use next time I jerk off. She also said I should email her boyfriend and tell him he could send me pictures if he wants. I begged her not to make me do that as he would send me dozens just to screw me over and make sure I never got to cum looking at a woman again. She eventually agreed I didn't have to do that yet.

I told her I had posted on here and she said that I should ask anyone here to do the same as her and send me pictures of guys at [email protected].

I really don't want to do this but if anyone does I will use them the next time I jerk off and I will try and email and say how humiliating it was.

I don't know if I can do this but it is what she wants.

Please remember that this is for real and every permister who sends me something makes it longer that I have to go without seeing girls. I really wouldn't mind if nobody responded to this but just having me do this is a turn on for her.

I've gotta be honest, I'm not sure how I feel about this (or would feel in your situation). Not being in any way gay or bi, I simply don't find men sexually attractive. I wouldn't be able to masturbate looking at pictures of men, at least not without closing my eyes and using my imagination. So whenever I read stories, or in your case true life accounts, about this sort of thing, or powering a straight male to give another man oral, or anything like that, it honestly makes me uncomfortable.

What it comes down to, at least in my mind, is that everyone has a certain core sexuality, and it's really a very deep-seated and integral part of that permister. And, to me, trying to mess with someone's core sexuality (I'm not talking about pushing limits here, I'm talking about core sexual identity) goes over the line.

Of course, it takes all folks in this world, and others may feel differently. That said, I will NOT be sending you any pictures of men, and I hope everyone else considering it at least thinks long and hard about it, and doesn't do it on a whim. Good luck Paul.

And I hope you keep up with the captions - yours are hands-down the best I've seen.

neils123

I guess it depends how you play. For Anne it's the idea that I'm miserable or being deprived that is a turn on and the more extreme it is the better. Sometimes it is difficult but we wouldn't want to do it any other way. There have been times whenI have had to cry on her shoulder because of what she's done, or what she's refused to do. It is difficult when you see, not just your wife having sex with another man, but your wife all over him, kissing him, getting into it, trying to make him happy and ignoring you. It is difficult when you are going down on your wife and you feel her pushing your hand away from her breasts but...that's what it's about. When Anne made love to her boyfriend in a hotel room with me there it was difficult. We had planned that afterwards I would have sex with her but after he left...to see that look in her eye and know that she genuinely didn't want to do that with me because she was still emotionally attached to what she had done with him. That was difficult but...it was hot and I would let that happen again.

I really, really don't have any homosexual feelings and have never done anything like that. It would be unbearable if I had to do things like that and...that is why she likes the idea of me doing it so much. I am genuinely scared of what she is doing at the moment but that's what's hot for us.

Oh, please don't get me wrong - I wouldn't tell anyone (or any couple) how to conduct their lives or presume to dictate what's right or wrong. Everyone is different, and you are absolutely right - "it depends on how you play." You and Anne are clearly involved in some extreme aspects (both physical and emotional) of a cuckold lifestyle (at least what I would consider extreme), and if it's working for you as a couple, and it's what the two of you need, then by all means, more power to you. I'm just saying there are lots of ways for her to hurt you, deprive you, and make you miserable. And this particular thing is one that, were it me, I would not be willing or able to continue with. I would feel that it was going too far. But it's not me, and if this is a level of presentation that you need, regardless of where it takes you, well then, it is what it is. After all, submissiveness seems to also be a core component of your sexuality as well. For me, as much as I may fantasize, I can't really imagine being in the scene you describe in that hotel room - I think that would be just too emotionally intense for me; clearly it's not for you and probably many others.

Like I said, I think the jerking off to pics of men is a bit too much, so I'm not gonna send you any. I sincerely hope that no one else just rushes off and sends you a hundred pictures just because to them you're just some random source of wank material on the internet and wouldn't it be SO HOT if a guy could be forever denied the sight of women, or never be allowed a pleasurable orgasm for the rest of their life, or so forth.

Meanwhile, you and Anne are clearly playing beyond where I would ever want to go in real life. So I don't have much advice except to say that I sincerely hope you both are getting (and continue to get) what you need out your relationship.

Paul,

It seems to me that you and Anne are taking an exciting step. The only thought I can share might be seen as a cautionary tale, although I really don't mean it that way: Years ago my wife had a very similar thought and began having me masturbate to gay porn. (And only with permission enpowerd by a chastity device.) Although many readers may doubt it now (out of their own fear or a suspicion that I did not know myself well), I honestly had no interest in men or gay sex at the time. What turned me on tremendously about it was the offense that my wife was making me degrade myself in such a twisted way. Humiliation was such a turn on for me that I become a willing partner in these games - and in others meant to degrade, emasculate, desensitise, and ultimately reprogram me - such as wearing panties daily, filling myself with a butt-plug or dildo everytime I came, etc.

The eroticness of the offense was such that I was just led deeper and deep. It has now been many years since I have been inside any orifice of any woman or orgasm in anything but a very humiliating and homoerotic manner (I use a male blow-up doll). My opportunity for this is typically once a week after she has reviewed the checklist of daily, weekly, monthly, etc. chores I am required to do in full maid's uniform. (I still wear panties everyday. I even have cotton ones to change into at the gym for working out.) At various times I was required to write essays about what turned me on in a gay porno video or story; to flirt with male salespeople or hotel staff; to thank boyfriends of hers for providing me with gay porn; even to subscribe to gay porn magazines.

At one point she started "outing" me (or worse, having me out myself) with the result that any number our acquaintances came to believe that I am gay and closeted. (Which made them much less critical abut the idea of her dating, by the way.) You don't know offense until old classmates and flames tell you in an understanding manner how it is OK for you to 'be who you are' and try to set you up with gay guys. (Do I need to explain that I was required by my wife not to reveal that I really was straight?)

Whoa! As is common when people get into their fetish bios I have run on too long. Let me just sum up by saying that - much to my surprise - the conditioning really did have an impact and I'm not even sure I could get properly excited for proper boy-girl sex anymore.

As I say, this is not meant to be cautionary. My experience is based on who I am and my marital relationship and yours will no doubt go its own way. All I will say is that: (A) it has been a hell of a ride, (B) life is short, (C) you should go for it and follow (and wallow) the fetish as far as you can.

I hope this is useful in someway to you and I apologize for running on. But after all the joy your captions have brought (brings me back to the excitements of the aforementioned ride) I was anxious to share what I could.

Good luck and best wishes to you both!
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

Robyn:

As I admire your captions so much – some of the absolute best, I did not want to see your thread die. So I will add a bit more.

I brought up your wife’s plan about only seeing male photos with my wife and, while she was intrigued, said she preferred our approach of my looking at girlie photos or photos of her with her boyfriends. My bedroom has several photos of her with her favorites, including some pretty elaborate pregnancy montages that I did for her. Her bedroom has the same, as does the upper floor hallway leading to her bedroom. And downstairs she has put out a number of tamer photos, mostly her holding hands or embracing a boyfriend, but none blatantly sexual.

You’ll need to let us know how your wife’s plan goes. I have been somewhat conditioned to be able to best and most quickly masturbate when viewing photos of my wife with a lover. We both enjoy the fact that my sexual existence has become increasingly focused on her and her enjoyment. My favorite photos of my wife and her lovers are those when she is pregnant with their baby. I never fail to get arroused at even the mildly romantic photos, when they are together enjoying their company and relishing her pregnant state. Of course, the more graphic photos will put me over the edge shortly after I touch myself. My wife really gets a kick out of my asking her permission to masturbate to her adulterous pregnancy photos. And so do I.

Best of luck

Howdy.

Not sure if you are still doing this as your last message was back in April, but I was 'nice' enough to send you an Email with some appropriate pics.

Enjoy

pete

I am still doing as directed.

Nobody sent me anything for months so I thought I had got away with this but just over a week ago I discovered an email in my trash folder from last month. It had a picture in it so I had to use it and tell the sender what I had done. I am not sure if he will send me more pictures.

I told Anne and asked her if I could stop doing it but she smiled and said no. The idea turns her on.

In the last week two more people have emailed me and I now have four photos to work through. I don't know why suddenly people have started doing this but it doesn't really matter, I don't have much choice in this. I guess I can forget about doing what I want for a while, or maybe forever..

Paul.

Starting

This is very difficult to talk about but I have used all the pictures I have been sent.

It was embarrassing and humiliating and not fun at all, which is what Anne wanted of course. Recently, while she was turned in she said I shouldn't be looking at girls at all but she hasn't told me that in black and white so I'm choosing to believe it's still OK to look at girls in the meantime.

I don't know how easy it is going to be to get used to this if things go the way she wants but I guess I will just have to deal with it.

Just to let you all know that I'm Anne's boyfriend (robyn137 has just bought my membership to this site) and I still think about that night in the hotel room. I keep in touch with him regularly and am looking forward (after a little time apart) to getting to know my Anne again very very intimately x

Hello everyone.

Sorry for disappearing for a while. Was busy with other things. I'll post this on my other threads too. Sorry for the repetition.

Anne met her ex in July as I said. She stayed over and I picked her up in the morning. When I called she came out with him. I stopped across the road. I couldn’t go right over to where he was. I was too humiliated. I have since apologised to her.

They had a great time. She says they spent a lot of time just hugging, watching TV and kissing. They had sex three or four times including once in the morning before I picked her up. She said she came a lot and she used her mouth on him for the first time (well, since they broke up years ago). She told him that she doesn’t do that for me. The last time they had sex before going to relax she said he just grabbed her and used her and it was amazing.

She also told me that she told him she loved him and that he said it back.

She still has sex with me but she hardly kisses me now. I tried to kiss her about a week ago and she pulled away. After she came back she started to say that her body is just for “a real man” and that I’m nothing like him. She sometimes would say things like that in the past but she seems more enthusiastic now.

We have moved things on in another way. We don’t usually play with money, although we did a couple of times in the past and it really turned her on. She likes me making my little mess inside her and recently I told her I would give her £20 every time she didn’t let me from now on. She decided to start right away and so she finished me with her hand instead. She said soon I won’t get that either. I think the game with the money will finally mean that I don’t get to finish inside her anymore. That was a big barrier for us in the past but she has only let me finish inside her once now since we started.

Other big news is that this week she heard that her ex has broken up with his girlfriend, which leaves the way clear for her to see him more. They now want to see each other a lot more often. I think she would like it if they worked up to once a week. Then she thinks she wouldn’t need to do anything with me at all. My sex life is probably coming to an end permanently but I know she needs a real man, not a little sissy like me, and I am grateful to be near her at all.

Anne says that the deal with people sending me pictures still stands although nobody has sent me anything for a while for which I am very grateful.

I haven’t done any captions for a while but I might post some soon. Sorry if anyone has been missing them.

Paul.

does she even know your alive

You should suggest to her that she invite him to move in with you. This would give you the opportunity to take it to the next level. If you are going to be permenantly banned from sex, you might as well start sucking cock...I have done it and believe me, once you get started, you'll ilike it!

This will also give you the opportunity to start licking his cum out of her on a daily basis...

Yes snailmale3, she knows very well that I'm alive!



What do you have in mind?

This sounds amazing and wow am really jealous, wish I was in your shoes

Update is that I still have to do this.

I hadn't been sent anything for a while and then recently I started getting pictures again. There are currently four people sending me things. It is horrible. I haven't been replying to their emails as I should because I am scared they will send me more pictures. I know that's selfish because this is what Anne wants and she thinks it is funny but it is hard.

Someone sent me a picture on Christmas day. I was so disappointed that I wouldn't be able to make my mess looking at girls. It was a big let down. I will do this as long as Anne wants. She has even tal;ked about me not looking at pictures of gurls at all and having to look at pictures of men the whole time, instead of just when I make my mess. I don't know how I would be able to deal with that. I would, of course. I wouldn't have any choice.

She gets so jealous

Deal with it

Very exciting thread!

I now have eight pictures to work through. That was just from one permister. Three others are emailing me. This is very difficult. I realise what is happening. I'm just going to be sent more and more pictures and they're just going to back up until I have no chance of making my mess while looking at women again. I felt like I almost wanted to cry when I saw how many I had been sent. I know this will all turn Anne on when I tell her. If this continues the only chance I will have is that she will agree that I don't have to do it anymore. Don't know how likely that is. I'm kind of scared to bring it up with her in case she decides I can't look at girls at all. I don't know how likely that is but I'm not sure I want to take the risk.

Remember the date

Hi robyn,

You keep saying it's terrible and horrible, yet I get the sense you do get some joy in that it is pleasing your demanding wife. True?

If so, has that "pleasure" started replacing the pleasures of your "old life" when you were allowed to look at and ejaculate to pictures of women?
Wannabe - see my captions at http://www.cuckoldplace.com/27_74912_1.html