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TIHI

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keep us posted!
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I know I could have reassured her more, and perhaps even used the opportunity to find out if she wanted to have sex with Tom exclusively, but it sort of came from left field and I was unprepared. I’m sure it will come up again, at some point…maybe then we’ll have more of a candid discussion about it.


Have you had any more discussion about her being exclusive with Tom? I'd be interested to hear how that talk went if it has hapenned.
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Wow, it's been a while since I've posted here...with work and everything it's hard to stay on top of things. I guess all I can hope for is periodic updates, to try to capture the general feel of the relationship as it progresses. Becky sees Tom around four times a week now, so there's no way I'll be able to relay everything that happens all the time.

We've talked a bit about our sex life, as well as hers and Tom's, and how that would work out. At this point, she's not willing to officially give up sex with me, and in fact she said she goes in cycles...sometimes she wants me more than him, other time she wants him more. However, she did admit frankly that when it comes to pure sex, he's much better. It seems that her "cycles" are uneven...she'll go three, four, or five weeks only wanting him, and then want me for a while (until I get to fuck her). Once she's fucked me, then she remembers what it was like with him and she can't get enough of him for a few weeks again.

We've also talked about the romantic side of the relationship. While she still loves me more than anyone, and more than ever, she is definitely in love with Tom as well. In fact, when I've seen them together, they have a unique chemistry that even I don't have with her (I have a different unique chemistry with her, I think). In any case, she certainly loves him, and on the few occasions that I have been stupid enough to criticize him for anything, she's been very protective and defensive of him, like he can do no wrong. I think that says a lot about their relationship.

As far as a random update goes: we just got back into town after a week visiting her family, so she hadn't seen him in a while. She got up this morning, got ready, and immediately went over to his place. She was so excited she was almost shaking. She's spending the day with him, and then going to a New Year's party is friend is throwing. She's not sure but she'll probably spend the night...she certainly dressed as if she planned to keep him busy all evening, lol. Other than that, everything seems to be going just as well as before. I'll keep my fingers crossed, and let you know what happens!
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tjm- Happy New Year, and thanks for updating us. We've had to put our lifestyle on hold for a bit, but it is still headed the way you and your wife are, so I am very interested in how you are coping with your wife falling in love with another man. I just really panic when it gets to that point. I hope that we could have a relationship like Tiny2L, but I'm not sure I can handle it. I want her to keep seeing her bf and would love to see him become a big part of her regular life, but like I said, tend to panic. Please keep us informed on how you are doing.
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Well, this was our last weekend of freedom before we all had to go back to work. As I said in my last post, she was out with him pretty much all day on New Year's Eve, came back around noon on Friday, and then went back out and didn't come back until Sunday morning...no doubt making up for lost time, since she hadn't seen him in a while. She was sort of grumpy all day Sunday; he was busy that day but she hadn't gotten her fill, and sat around all forlorn wishing she could spend that day with him as well. I tried to keep her happy--we even started to have sex, but I could tell her heart wasn't in it, I was clumsy through lack of practice lately, and it was just making her more frustrated. So we just hung out and cuddled for the rest of the day. She's seeing him again after work today; hopefully that will help her mood a bit.

Regarding the 'exclusivity' thing, I don't know if she'll continue to go in cycles or if she'll gradually phase me out. I suppose time will tell. I do know that it's entirely possible that my path will follow the one Tiny2L has posted. One thing I have noticed is that there are two complimentary processes going on. First, as I get out of practice in the bedroom, I get clumsier, meaning that even if I was OK in bed before (which is debatable) I'm gradually getting worse, making intercourse more difficult and more likely to not go very well. Second, as she has sex with him more and more, she gets accustomed to it, so it becomes the norm...which means that sex with me feels a bit awkward to her. I've noticed more frequently, when she throws me a 'mercy fuck' or even when she does genuinely want to have sex with me, that when we get down to it there's a feeling of awkwardness, I think for both of us; it just doesn't seem as natural as it used to. This has led to quite a few situations where we start to have sex, and then she either stops me, saying she's not into it anymore, or she 'lets me' continue, but is completely out of it...talking, giggling, making teasing comments as I try valiantly to please her. It's not out of cruelty or anything, it's just that she's not in the moment--and to be honest, as I've posted before the slight offense really does turn me on. So, while Becky and Tom are not exclusive, I suppose it's not out of the realm of possibility that she eventually decides it's not worth it to try having intercourse with me anymore.

As far as that goes, I think I'd be OK with it. We'd have to talk about it, to be sure, but as long as I am still allowed to go down on her (and I think I would be, since I am far better at that than he is) I would still be able to contribute sexually. Right now, though, things are still going as usual. She seems to need him more and more, and gradually it's possible that she'll be seeing him every day, but for now I think the three or four days a week that she sees him will be OK, as long as we don't take any more vacations.
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Oops...Herz4fun, I realize now that I didn't address your other issue, which was the idea of her falling in love with him. It's certainly an important issue that I think about a lot. It would be a problem, I think, if I wasn't 100% sure that she was completely in love with me, and that she would never let anything hurt our love, even if she falls in love with him as well. We've talked about it, and she said that if I was really upset about it, and I thought it was harming our relationship, she'd stop seeing him...but she does love him, and her condition for this statement was that I had to be totally open and talk to her about the problem first, giving her a chance to fix it before I demanded she stop seeing him. If I just demanded out of the blue, that would hurt her very much and *** the trust and openness in our relationship, and might damage it permanently. She constantly assures me that she loves me more than ever, and that is nonnegotiable. So, I'm OK with her loving someone else as long as she still loves me.

It's been made clear to me in many ways that this love is very strong. On the few occasions that I've been stupid enough to criticize Tom or make a joke at his expense for pretty much anything, she's defended him like a lady bear defending her cub. And when he's at our place hanging out when I'm around, I can hear them giggling and talking like they've been together for years. It has been about 8 months now, so they've had time to develop a strong attachment. While I have felt left out a few times (just as I'm sure he has when she is with me), it's not a strong enough issue to worry about right now, and we talk about it all the time to make sure that she's being fair with both of us. I think that is the best (and probably the only) way to handle such strong feelings in a complex relationship such as ours.
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A couple of small updates: First, my wife seems to be testing the waters more and more in terms of teasing and lightly humiliating me, which I love. I still don't quite know how to react--I'm afraid that if I clearly enjoy the teasing she'll get a bit weirded out, but if I try to hide that it arouses me and overreact she'll stop, not wanting to hurt my feelings. At this point, I'm mostly calmly agreeing with the things she says, and occasionally chuckling a bit like it's all in fun. This is a big step, because before she would avoid saying anything that could be construed as hurting my feelings; it took her weeks, maybe months, to even hint that her boyfriend's penis was bigger than mine. However, over the last couple of weeks, she's gotten bolder with it. Last week, for example, she was feeling horny but her bf wasn't around, so she said "I need sex tonight. Let me finish this chapter [she was reading a book] and then we can go to the bedroom and you can stick that tiny thing in me." I was honestly a bit flustered, and didn't know what to say...while I stammered, she grinned, reached out and grabbed my penis through my pants, and said "See? It'll feel like someone's poking me." Then, just the other day, we were on the couch watching TV, me sitting up and her lying down with her head on my lap. She moved to readjust herself and accidentally jabbed her elbow into my thigh. She looked up and said "Oh, I'm sorry, are you OK? I think I hit your package!" I told her she missed it, and she settled back down and said, "Well, I guess it's pretty easy to miss." I suppose it's a bit strange, but I really love this minor teasing and offense, as long as it's not done cruelly, and she just says it in a very matter-of-fact way. Does anyone else get off on that sort of thing?

The other update is that she's out with Tom tonight; I'm at a coffee shop and I've been instructed to come back around 11 pm, giving her five hours with him. I was still at the apartment when she was getting ready, and she was so sexy, not only because she was putting on sexy matching lingerie, sexy clothes, and sexy makeup, but because she was soooo excited to be seeing him...humming, smiling, almost jumping up and down. When I went to tell her I was leaving she was just in her lingerie, and I couldn't help but gawk and run my hands over her body when I kissed her goodbye. When I did that, though, she pushed my hands away, readjusted her bra, and said "I love you, honey, but my mind's in a different place when I get ready, and it feels strange for your hands to be on me...right now, I want his." I don't know if it's another step towards them being exclusive or not, but it was certainly both humiliating and hot.
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Do they use condoms or is she on birthcontrol?
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TIHI, right now she's on the pill. We have used condoms as our primary means of birth control for most of our marriage; we tried the pill initially but she didn't really like the mess of me cumming inside her, so we switched to condoms. The condoms were also good for us because they decrease my sensitivity somewhat, making me last a bit longer, which was important for me. When they first started having sex, he wore condoms but they really affected his sensitivity...with a condom on, it would often take him 1 1/2 or 2 hours to cum, with her riding him hard the whole time. While she liked that occasionally, she couldn't do it all the time, so she got back on the pill for him. Bareback he usually lasts about 45 minutes, an hour tops, which she can handle a bit better. He's grateful, too, because he much prefers the feel of her rather than the condom.

In the way of an update, they've got a big night planned for tonight. Becky realized over the weekend that most of their sexual encounters are basically fast, hard fucking. While she definitely loves that, she told him that sometimes she'd like to make love slowly. This would basically be a new experience for her, because while she and I have definitely made love slowly before (in terms of lots of foreplay, kissing, etc), due to my low stamina I can't really last long once penetration occurs, even going slowly. I think she'd really like to experience what it's like to fuck slowly, deliberately, and lovingly for hours. So tonight I'm staying at work very late, he's coming over to our apartment, and they're going to have a long, slow, sensual lovemaking session (at least that's the plan). She's very excited about it.
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that sounds really like an exciting experience. really that sex is the best kind, when done right, and with the right permister. Do you still wear condom with her though? Is it a turnon for you that he is the one dumping his cum inside her? Does she enjoy when he does that! thanks for a great thread!!
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I do still wear a condom with her when we have sex; mostly because it helps me to last just a bit longer. It was honestly perplexing when she let him fuck her without a condom, because I know one of the reamisters she wanted me to wear one was that she didn't like the mess. However, I guess she got over that in favor of him getting more pleasure from sex, and I think now she's grown to like it...she used to shower and clean herself up immediately after every date, but it seems like she's waiting longer and longer to do that lately. As for me: yes, I think it's pretty hot. There's something symbolic about the fact that I always wear condoms and Tom doesn't need to--that he's the one filling her with his cum, not me.

Apparently the long, slow lovemaking was an amazing experience...I guess it was done right, and I guess he's the right permister! On Monday night I stayed late at work, and she texted me when he left so I could come home. We have this arrangement pretty regularly, and usually I end up coming home around 9 or 10 pm. On Monday night, I got the text at just after 2 am! I definitely got a lot of work done, and even started taking care of some of my assistant's work, lol. When I got home, the bedroom smelled strongly of sex, the bed had been moved about five feet from the wall, the sheets had fallen off, and Becky was just lying there, almost in a daze. I moved the bed back, fixed the sheets, and tucked her in. I asked how it went, and she closed her eyes, smiled, sighed, and said "Perfect." I asked for more specifics, and she said "I don't have the words right now, and right now I don't want to share it...I'd love to talk about it tomorrow, but not tonight." So I finished tucking her in, climbed into bed, and we went to relax for a few hours.

The next morning, despite not getting much relax, she was amazingly happy and calm. After getting back from work and having dinner yesterday, we cuddled on the couch, with me rubbing her neck and shoulders as she leaned against me, to talk about her date. When she got back from work that night, she showered and put on his favorite lingerie, which is a very sexy black and pink set. He got to our apartment after work, around 5:30. She wanted to thank him for letting her try this long, slow lovemaking (and, presumably, make sure he lasted quite a while), so she got him a beer, led him to the couch, and sucked his cock until he came. Then she asked him to meet her in the bedroom and went to freshen up. When she went into the bedroom, they wordlessly started to kiss, and did a bit of foreplay, kissing and licking each others' bodies. He was back to full arousal within a few minutes, and they didn't waste any time. She told me that "even from the first time he entered me it was magical. We could tell it was a different type of sex. We were just lying on the bed, kissing, looking into each others' eyes, and then he was inside me and to be honest much of the rest of the night is a blur."

She said it was without a doubt, no contest, the absolute best sex of her entire life. I'd heard her say that about him before (actually, she says that on most of her dates, I guess he keeps getting better) but then she told me that it might well have been the best NIGHT of her entire life. She said they were totally connected, that they moved as one, each permister seeming to know just what the other wanted or needed. They started slow, kissing and very slow, passionate lovemaking...sometimes he would barely move, just stay buried in her for long periods at a time as they kissed, talked, and laughed together. Other times it would be more vigorous thrusting, and she said at those times it felt as if his cock were reaching places even he had never touched in their most wild fucking sessions.

They lost track of time pretty quickly, but over time the slow, passionate sex began to gradually build to climaxes. She came four times that she can remember, but she said that the third one might have been multiples or an extended orgasm...once she had that orgasm it felt like it came in waves and she was orgasming for what seemed like hours while they made love. She also said she thinks he came three times, but without the 15 minute breaks for her to suck his cock to get him hard again like it usually takes. This time she said he'd cum and just stay inside her, and she would get him hard with her pussy (I can verify that she has amazing control ). At the end (she was riding his cock at the time) they both came together, and then she collapsed onto him and he held her, his cock still buried inside her, for a while. Eventually he pulled out and got dressed, she walked him to the door and kissed him goodnight, and texted me to come home.

She had mostly lost track of time, but they worked out afterwards that they must have made love, basically continuously, for about six or seven hours that night. It wasn't all thrusting all the time, but it was at least six hours of making love, of him inside her, of them climaxing together, and she said it was the most wonderful feeling in the world. It's not something that she would be able to do all the time, but they're both glad they did it and definitely want to do it again when they can. When we had mostly finished talking about it, she looked up at me and said "Do you want to know something strange? The last time I came, when I came really hard and fell into his arms...I started to cry. I was so happy and felt so sexually and spiritually satisfied that I couldn't help weeping. I've never cried from sex before! And I was afraid he'd be weirded out but he seemed to know how I felt because he just held me like that for a really long time. It was wonderful; I love him so much." Then she thanked me again, profusely, for being so understanding, and such a wonderful husband, and we went to relax. They're seeing each other again tomorrow night; not for one of these marathon sessions but on a regular date. We'll have to see how that goes in the wake of this experience, and see how often they do end up having these sessions.
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please, let us know the progress!!
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tjm65: Beautiful story. You and your wife have an amazing relationship. My wife was very slow in humiliating me in the beginning of our marriage because she loves me so much and hates hurting me. It didn't take long, though, for her to realize that her humiliating me was something I desired greatly. It gave me great pleasure and so she decided that she'd just go for it. My offense increased the pleasure we both got out of our cuckolding relationship. We both love our relationship and I wish you nothing but luck in yours. I look forward to reading more in the future.
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Vol92, thanks so much for your feedback. I think it's a beautiful story too . I think Becky is getting more and more used to the minor offense that I like, and I expect that will continue to happen. I'm glad this worked out for you, and I hope it continues to do so for us as well.

In the time since the long lovemaking session I wrote about last time (almost a week, I guess) their relationship has definitely reached a new level. I think that that time was a big threshold that they crossed, and they are sooo much better together now even than they were before. She says they both loved it, and want to continue doing it...probably not all the time, but maybe once a week or so. However, they don't want to do it in place of one of their usual date nights when they hang out, and when they generally fuck pretty hard and wildly. So, it looks like either the times when they see each other will increase from 3-4 times a week to 4-5 times, or perhaps (and this is more likely) the one day every weekend that they're together might turn into two, or a regular overnight, or something like that. Basically, they want to add a time each week to just explore each others' bodies for hours.

The other thing that's new is that since the long lovemaking session was something that she really wanted to do, she's told him he can pick one thing he'd like to do as well. He's still thinking about it, but some ideas he's had are things like making her call him before and after she has sex with me, having her blow him continuously for a long time, or something like that. I'll let you know what he decides.

I've been thinking a lot about this, especially since her relationship with Tom got so much closer, and about why I feel the way I do. In reality, it should upset me that she seems to have this visceral, sexual, spiritual link with him that doesn't exist between Becky and me. I talked about it with her, and she said that there has always been a bit of awkwardness about sex with me, and with him, there's nothing...it's totally natural. I should be upset by that, but I'm not. In reality, I feel like I'm her best friend who is just glad that she's so happy. I certainly don't want to leave her, and I'm attracted to her sexually...but I'm also really glad that she's happy with him, even if it takes precedence over me.
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if powerd to choose between you, who do you think she would pick?
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That's a tough question. She doesn't want to pick; she'd like to have us both forever. She likes different things about each of us, and she'd be far less fulfilled than she is now if she had to pick.

My sense is that, if one of us made her choose, she'd be very upset at that permister and go with the other one. So, if I made her pick she might pick him, and if he did she'd pick me.

Aside from that, however, as a pure thought exercise, I know that if powerd to choose she would choose me. I know these posts make it seem as though their relationship is much stronger than ours, simply because I focus on them more, and I don't put in all of the sweet, emotional, romantic stuff from my relationship with her. But as much as she loves him, and wants him around, she tells me repeatedly that I'm the most important permister in her life, and that she loves me more than ever and more than anyone. In fact, while I do enjoy this lifestyle, my one condition at the outset was that it would immediately end if it came between our love; I'm sure she would be upset if that happened but I am also sure that she would end it to be only with me if that's what I truly needed.
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Are you enjoying being cuckolded? If you love it and so do your wife and her lover, then I can't see any reamister for her to have to choose between the two of you. You're her cuckold husband and what ever turns your wife on you should support. I think your relationship will work out fine. You have a great attitude about letting your wife explore great sex with another man. Good luck and I can't wait to hear what happens next.
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Vol92, you're absolutely right. I'm definitely enjoying this a great deal, and Becky and Tom are certainly enjoying it as well. So far everything's been going great, and I see no reamister for it to change...except to hope that it continues to get better and better.

Just a general update: Becky saw Tom again on Friday night. They were going to go out, but ended up just getting takeout at his place and staying in. According to her, they had amazing sex (as usual)--not the marathon kind, but just regular fucking. She said that she continues to be amazed at how good the sex is, though...it just keeps getting better, and is basically always the best she's ever had. This time, he made her cum so hard that she stopped breathing for a bit, and he was even sort of concerned about her until she told him not to even think about stopping ;).

Other than that meeting, however, there are a few more things from the weekend that are worth noting; things that happened between us rather than between them. Some of it is stuff that had already happened between us, or things she's already said so those of you reading might recognize it. However, just the way they were said (and the fact that she repeated them to me again) was extremely hot.

First, on Saturday morning we were talking about her date. She was telling me some of the things they talked about, and then started talking about the sex. As we talked about that, she started to compare us a bit. She said (and I'm paraphrasing here): "Of the two of you, I'd say you actually have more s******* in the bedroom. You're better at foreplay, at oral, and you've got better moves; in that sense he's not incredible in bed. Mostly I go down on him or ride him, there's not a whole lot of variety. BUT the main difference is your penises. His cock is somehow shaped just perfectly, it hits places for me that I've never felt before, and that make me go totally wild. He just gives me these amazingly long, deep vaginal orgasms." I asked her if she meant his size, and she said that yes, he was long and very thick, but she didn't think it was just that...it was the size AND shape overall, that it was just perfect for her, and that even though he wasn't as s*******ed all she needed was that cock and she has the best sex of her life. I told her to keep relaxing with him, and maybe he'd get more s*******ed, especially at the moves she likes. She sighed, and said "Yeah...I think you're right...but I'm not sure I'd be able to handle it if the sex got much better than it is right now." She was smiling ear to ear, though, and something tells me she'd be able to handle it just fine.

The other thing that happened was that on Sunday, Becky and I had sex. We were making out, and started to get very horny (as mentioned above, I'm still great at foreplay). We went to the bedroom and started undressing. When I laid down on the bed, she looked down and said "Wow, I'm so used to Tom...you always look so tiny!" I blushed, and she covered her mouth, she had obviously blurted it out without thinking. It just made me hotter, though, so I pulled her on top of me. She rode me for a bit, but I could feel that she was much looser than I remember her, and she liked the pleasure she was giving me but clearly didn't get much out of it. So we switched, and moved to missionary position. I started fucking her while she rubbed her clit, and I think I actually got sort of close to making her cum. However, although she likes that position better when she fucks me (I think because her pussy is tighter on my cock that way), it makes me cum much faster, so I couldn't last very long; I think I came before she got a chance to. I could tell that she was acting like she liked it, but I couldn't help thinking that she wished it was him fucking her instead of me. We took a nap afterwards, and went about our day. It was a great weekend.
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it certainly seems like you are having a great experience, that she is so open and that she found a good guy, you are certainly blessed how old are the two of you by the way?
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Did you tell her that when she said "Wow, I'm so used to Tom...you always look so tiny!" that it really turned you on? You should be honest about how it feels when she praises her lover and compares his size to yours. If she knows you like it, she could do it more often to enhance your experience. I really hope you continue to post. I find myself checking to see what you are up to on this site more often than I normally do (about once a week). Thanks again and enjoy.
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Thanks, TIHI, I think so too. I'm 32, and Becky and Tom are both 30; so, we're all relatively young.

Vol92, I do need to be more explicit that that sort of thing turns me on. I'm getting closer to letting her know; I've certainly stopped getting upset when she says those things. Usually now I just agree with her, even when she clearly means to tease me and not necessarily make a statement. She's done it both ways: depending on her mood sometimes she states matter-of-factly that I'm small or that he's bigger, and other times she just says it to tease me a bit, and when I agree she says that she's teasing and that it's not true. I think she's still not totally comfortable saying that sort of thing all the time, either to save my feelings or to not admit to herself that her husband has these deficiencies. However, while I do love it when she does either of those, I have yet to tell her explicitly...I still worry a bit that she'll be weirded out by that. But I guess communication and honesty is key, so I suppose I'll have to get on that.

We've all been pretty busy this week, so not much to update. However, there was one thing. Becky saw Tom on Friday night, and on Saturday we were talking about it. She said that as he fucked her, she started to beg him, first quietly and then more and more wildly, to "fill her up" with his cum. He loved that, fucked her really hard, and then came a lot inside of her...she said that it was amazingly hot to beg for his cum like that and then told me "it's so hot to feel a guy that you are really into filling you up with his cum...just so amazingly sexy." This was extremely humiliating and hot because she never seemed to like me cumming in her, has definitely never begged or asked me to cum in her, and still expects me to wear condoms when we fuck. Just another way he's becoming her true sexual partner.
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Quick update: Becky went over to Tom's place last night. It wasn't for any set date or anything, it was just a spontaneous thing. When she came back last night she was telling me about how her date went, and she happened to mention that while she was giving him a blowjob (him in his chair, her on her knees in front of him) she paused, looked up at him, and said "I love your cock. I love it a lot. I think about it all the time." Then she went back to sucking, and gave him another one of her amazing blowjobs. Even though I knew she liked his cock, and she might have even mentioned it to me once or twice, the way she said it and the fact that she told him that way drove me absolutely wild.
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tjm65
Thanks so much for the update. I don't think that she feels "her husband has these deficiencies." Of course I don't know you, but by reading what you post I think she's getting the idea that praising her lover and comparing him to you is turning you on. Try saying "I love you so much" every time she humiliates you in some way. Or show some sign of presentation to her. When she's out having fun with her lover you could tell her you're going to do housework. That's a very submissive thing to do. While she's getting pleasure from her lover, you're making her house look nice. I just get the feeling that you'd really like her to be dominant over you as well as her cuckolding you. But it seems to be going great for all three of you, and that's what's important. Good luck. I'm looking forward to hearing how things are going.

PS I think it's really hot that she lets him, begs him, to cum inside her while her husband has to wear a condom. Do you suppose it could get to a point when she'll cut you off from intercourse all together? And would that work for you if she did?
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your ultamate love to your wife will be when her lover cums and he slowly rolls off and you lick his cum from her pussy,his sperm will change your life and she will love you so much more in a different way. Black male sperm will make you feel a bit more feminine and make your orgasms stronger. Then you'll be hooked!
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This is just one of my favorite threads here. TJM, thanks so much for sharing. Vol92, do you have more about your life posted somewhere else? Sounds like you have a pretty cool setup, and I'd love to hear more about it. And Tiny2L, I hope my marriage goes the way yours has gone. That sounds like my ideal relationship in many ways, and it's great to hear that it's been sustainable for you long-term! You guys all rock, thanks for posting!
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rdvrk, thanks for the feedback! mandescrete1, I'm glad you know what you like, but I'm not particularly interested in cleaning up or anything like that. I just like the minor offense, and the knowing that my wife gets what she needs and craves from Tom (in any case, he's white so even if black sperm had that particular mystical quality, I wouldn't find out anyway).

I've been pretty busy with work lately, and Becky and Tom's relationship has been pretty normal (good, but nothing really new) lately, so I haven't had much to report. She still sees him pretty often, and they are definitely in love. One development which I'm not sure is new, but has definitely developed more lately, is that Becky has gone from tolerating unprotected sex to absolutely LOVING it. You may remember that initially she didn't really like the mess of fucking without a condom, and so I always wore one. Tom, however, really doesn't like condoms, and so once they started dating and she was sure he was clean and only with her, she went on the pill for him. Even then, she always told me that it might feel different for guys, but that when it comes to the sex she couldn't tell a difference. She tolerated the mess because he liked it better, and she wanted to keep fucking him and for him to love fucking her. However, I think that has changed.

Last Friday I was really tired from work, so I went to bed pretty early. I was also pretty horny, so before bed I kept trying to get Becky to fuck me. She let me go down on her, but said that she wasn't in the mood to have intercourse, so I went to bed around 10 pm, exhausted and horny. I woke up again at around 4 am when she was coming to bed; I asked what had kept her and she said she'd tell me in the morning. The next morning I got up early and she slept in until almost noon. I made brunch and we talked about the night before.

Apparently he had called her at around 11 and they talked for a bit, and then she invited him over. They hung out for a while in the living room, and she said that she started to get really, really horny, so she started to suck his cock, and then they fucked for around 3 hours on the couch, the floor, and the dining room table. Needless to say, she was pretty sore. Then she said "I really, really love fucking him bare, without a condom. At first I thought there was no difference, but there really is...there's more friction, it feels better, and it almost seems like I get filled up better with no condom between us. Plus I've grown to love the feeling of him cumming inside of me. It's heaven!" So it seems that instead of just tolerating it, she now much prefers unprotected sex.

This newfound preference does bring up a few questions for me, though. First, I wonder if she'll want to start fucking me that way as well, or if she'll prefer that I keep using a condom. If she does, I'm sure that will confirm for both of us that he ranks as her primary lover. However, even if she wants me to start fucking her without a condom, I'm not sure what would happen...I still like condoms because they help me last just a bit longer, and if I come even quicker bare, she will probably come to prefer his hours-long fucking sessions even more. Either way, I suppose this is just one more step she's taking on the path to being my wife but his lover, either exclusively or almost so.
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similiar but different lives here. My wife, Karla, who I have posted about in this same topic forum, loves getting new cock inside her, yet also has a semi regular fuck buddy. She used to use condoms with new cock, but for the longest while has let quite a few men empty their cum inside her.

Karla tells me that every mans penis feels different with or without a condom when it enters her and every cock feels differnt inside her, getting close to cumming and every cock feels differnt when it cums inside her.

At this point, the only cum she is not allowing to swim inside her is mine.
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if/when its time to have youngren, do you think she'll rather have yours or his?
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TIHI, I honestly can't answer that right now--I just don't know. Part of the issue is that, although she definitely goes through phases where she really wants to have a baby and feels a lot of maternal instincts, we're pretty set against having youngren right now. So we haven't talked about that scenario at all. Right now, we're all operating under the assumption that youngren are not in the future.

If that changes, I suppose her choice of whether to have his youngren or mine will depend on a few factors. First, I don't know if he wants to have kids with her or not; obviously if he doesn't want to, it'll be no kids or my kids. Second, it will depend on our situation at the time. If it's far enough in the future that we're all living together, which is what she wants to do within the next few years, that might tilt the balance in his favor. Right now, although she does love him very much, he is still her boyfriend whereas I am her husband. However, if she feels comfortable in a committed relationship with both of us, I find it entirely possible that she'd choose to be impregnated by him rather than me. Part of the issue will also be random chance. We had a pregnancy scare early on, before she was on the pill, when we were pretty certain that if she was pregnant it would be his. She wrestled pretty hard with the decision of what to do then; she eventually decided that she would probably get an abortion, but it was a hard decision. Luckily, she wasn't pregnant, but they are much closer now and I very much doubt that if the contraception failed she would be able to terminate the pregnancy, especially if he didn't want her to. So it is likely that in that situation she'd have his baby.

Other than those considerations, though, I just don't know. She loves me very much, and has said that I would be a great man; so if she wanted kids to show her love for one of us, I might still be chosen to be the man. However, if biology takes over and she wants to pass on the best genes to her young...well, my guess is she'll choose her real man and lover for that role.
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so she wants to have you all three live together now? how do you think that will work, with intimacy between you? is he ok with the situation, or would it annoy him if she was intimate with both of you under the same roof? doesnt she feel bad for you if she only gives it to him? thanks for a interesting thread
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