The wife sent me this! Need advise.

i've been watering the seed of cuckold to my wife for months. i started texting dirty to my wife and she ended up texting me a picture. The picture's message says that she is forwarding me an original message. Which means she is forwarding me the message she originally sent out to someone else. i wasn't the permister she originally sent the message to. This turned me on really high. My question is what do I do next?

The obvious question is who did she do that for?

I know the answer to that. It's probably one guy from work. We were strolling across town one day and ran into him and she acted like a little school girl. She's called out his name when I asked her who she wishes was fucking her when I was riding her from behind. Recently she said to me that she did her hair and "they" like it at work, that "they" like it every way that she does it. The "they" translated(as it was not english), kind of sounded like "he." I'm having lunch with her today at her Job to see if I can get more info.

Even if you know who she sent it to, it's a way to get her talking about it. Just casually ask her who she sent it to, with a smile on your face.

You can follow that question with something like, "What was his reaction? Did he like it?"

bpop,
Unless I hear anything else, I think I'm going to follow your advise. I was going to try and bring it up during lunch today with her. I was at her job having lunch and noticed all the women. I told her that a man would be like a kid in a candy store with all the women there. She just smiled. I was going to ask her if anybody hits on her, but the man in me first said maybe I should apply for a job there. She got defensive so I didn't go in either direction.

She knows what she is doing. Back off and let her hae what she needs w/o you snooping around.

What messaging program is that?

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need more advise. She went out tonight, she gave me a lame story, i'm about 99% it was to see a guy. I'm mad and excited. I'm mad because she didn't tell me and excited because she is enjoying herself. I don't know what to do, help!

My advice would be it depends...are you okay with her seeing another guy behind your back and lying to you? If so, stick with the passive approach and reinpower to her how you are into the hotwife thing and that you are okay with her having another lover or other lovers. Then maybe at some point she will level with you if she believes you won't become upset. Could lead to great experiences. Permisterally, I don't know how one would find that arrangement acceptable but their seems to be quite a few on this site that are into that scenario so to each his own. More power to them.

However, if you are not okay with being deceived...FIND OUT. There are plenty of ways to do this if you are determined. Once you have the goods, confront her in the nicest and LEAST combative way while letting her know in no uncertain terms that you know what she has been doing and that you approve wholeheartedly but ONLY if you are included and/or kept in the loop. Maybe then the walls will come down. Best of luck to you. I for one will be waiting to hear how your situation turns out.

P.S. If you are 99% sure then you are 100% sure, you just don't have the proof. Next time she gives you a lame story, be prepared to follow up. And whatever you do, don't confront her til you have PROOF. If you go at her with just suspicions, you'll leave her an opening to lie her way out of it and give her the opportunity to take her tryst deeper underground. Then you are just getting played in my book.

i am definitely not ok with her lying to me. and I think I did find out. I've always told her that I am ok with what ever she does as long as she keeps me in the loop. She is hiding it.


she came home all happy, she gave me some stories about what her and her friend talked about. A lot of detail. She was singing out loud. Here is my proof. She was out of the house for six hours. When she came home I greeted her well and we talked for a while. She tongued me at one point and told me she wanted me to do her, but slowly this time, very lovingly. I started kissing her body and got down to her vagina.......

I worked my tongue for a little bit being gental. her clit was clean, her pussy was also clean. But I mean completely clean, how is that possible if she was out takeing like she said and I didnt recognize the soap smell. At one point I felt a hair and when I went to the bath room I realized it was not ours. I lost my erection and told her that I had masturbated to a picture of her before she came home(which I did, but I was ready) and would need her assistance to get me up and going. She then told me to forget about sex and we can shoot for tomorrow morning. I couldn't relax so I am working now.

when I get home today, I will confront her nicely as you stated.

That's the biggest mistake people make when cheating is coming home smelling clean but with someone elses soap and shampoo smell.
Only shower with water if you're going to do it.

Anyway, it sounds very familiar to me. The work coleague route is the one my wife took when she first cheated on me. The little stories, the happy, giggly chatter, the more frequent nights out with "friends" she's never mentioned before and eventually, the swollen, well fucked pussy and confession.

It lead to some great sex, 3sums and fantasy fulfilling for us and we are still together, happy with the memories.

Damn not sure how you can deal with "cuckold" this way. I would of freaked out. Thats not right of her to day behind your back. Where is the trust and love then? To each their own I guess.

If it were me this isn't clicking this is cheating retain a lawyer get your assets in hand then confront her it's up to you but she's dishonest about it you need to call her on it. Mine ask permission for every guy every time shes upfront honest I trust her there's no sneaking around she'll tell me how bad she wants him ect... That's cuckolding she's sneaking around behind your back fucking other guys that's cheating there's a differnce

I am going to have to disagree with v8cobra99 on this one. I wouldn't make her feel bad about the sex, but the deceit is another matter. Lying is fucking lying. Anyone who accepts that kind of treatment from a spouse or anyone else for that matter is a sucker if you ask me. Having said that, there's still the possibility that this could workout like it did for jmaldern but I wouldn't get my hopes up. I'm 43 and women make even less sense to me now then they did when I was 21. Most women would rather lie and cheat than have their cake and eat it too. For the life of me, I'll never understand that.

geecrizz;
Your last 2 sentences sum things up well. She will lie for a number of good reamisters. She may want to enjoy her sexual freedom privately. It is more fun and exciting for a woman to serve hubby cream pies he don t know he is getting! Yes, she is YOUR wife, but it is HER sex life! It is very hard to enjoy something when you have to explain your every move.
Lying is as easy for her as not understanding her is for you!
..............PSEUDO PERSON...YMMV!

jmaldern,
I found out my wife's experience was the same as yours. It was a friend from work, a guy I knew she liked because she told me. But she did lie and tell me she was going somewhere else. I'll go into more detail in the next post.

mixedcpl7982,
Freaked out I was. I am much better now. I am a bit of an insomniac now because I can't wait until Monday when she see's him again. Since they don't communicate on weekends, I agreed to wait til Monday, But I haven't slept much since my post on on the 27th. My body is full of adrenalin and my mind won't stop thinking about the hope I have for this to continue.

Browning,
I have no need to bring lawyers into this. This turned out OK, I messed up by pushing the truth out of her, but because of your post, I had a definite need for her to fess up during our initial talk. I at one point told her I would leave this relationship if she didn't tell me the whole truth. That works, as you'll see in the next long post.

v8cobra99,
I wish I would have taken your advise. I wish you were the only permister that had posted a response. I extracted the truth out of her. It brought us closer, but I really should have just told her that I was OK with what she did with him, and that I will wait for her to tell me when she is ready. I shouldn't have done so many of the things I did below. But the lying *******ed me. I thought this woman would never lie to me and three times I had to get the different parts of the story from her.

geecrizz,
I did not make her feel bad about the sex. I kept telling her that what ever she did, I am ok with, but I needed the entire truth as you will see in next post. In my mind when I spoke with her, Lying was fucking Lying as well and I was not having that, because if she lies about this, what will she lie about next. I now understand what is meant when someone says the truth will set you free. In your comment you said don't make sense to you. If you get them talking, you will see that they make complete sense. I understand why she lied to me, but as I have done in the past, I needed to push to her that the truth is the only way I was going to be able to live with her.


I_A_S_P,
If this was a forum, and I asked the question that had a prize for understanding the situation, then I would award you the prize. Even though I have been planting and watering the seed for her to do something like this for three years now. She lied because she thought it would hurt me. She could not comprehend how I would find joy in seeing her conquer this guy. That was good reamister number one. Good reamister number two was that she wanted to enjoy her sexual freedom privately like you said. She said that this was her thing. She has been a good girl her whole life, she wanted to do something for herself. She had told me this in the past, and I have always, always encuraged her to step out of the box people put her in and enjoy herself. I've explicitly told her many times to take a situation as far as she felt comfortable, but here is the big but, but, I've always told her that "I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT." These two reamisters led her to ignore my clause in this agreement.


I am and
and soon you will know why.

OK, I forgot to mention something very important. I wasn't 95% confident that she was seeing someone else. I was 110% confident. I left my laptop at the office so I went to use her laptop. She had left a browser window open, when I went to type facebook.com, someone else's profile came up. When I look at it, it only had one friend and one conversation. So I read the whole thing. The actions I took after reading this only occurred because of a lie she said to me. If she would not have lied, I would not have done what I did that night. She did tell me about a guy from work that she liked, even saying his name during sex at one point. I kept reinpowering to her that I was ok with her thoughts about him. Weeks had gone by and she did not mention him at all. This scared me. So I openly asked her about him. I asked her how is he doing. She told me that she doesn't see him anymore because he works mostly the office in another town. She also told me that she didn't like him anymore. I asked her why and she said she just lost interest in him. I told her I was disappointed, because I truly was.
the picture she sent in the beginning of this post was actually first sent to me, but failed, and then she forward it to me. But when I first saw that picture, I thought she had sent it to him. PS: She may have sent it to him, but in her text message records it clearly indicated that she first attempted to send it to me before she forwarded it to me. So when I read the facebook dialog below, assuming she was telling the truth, then I had no idea who this guy was. And that scared me and that led to the actions of the next post.



My Wife
I meant if you miss my " papi chulo" greeting

April 13 Her Lover
yes of course

April 13 My Wife
here it is hi my papi chulo ;*. I hope I made you smile.

April 13 Her Lover
u always do
so, I want you to tell me in detail, what you like and what you dont like

April 13 My Wife
Ummmm, so you want to know me....well I will need some time to write. Can I get back to you in a bit ;*



Her Lover
sure

April 13 My Wife
In general.. I like to dance it keeps me happy . To eat sushi, to take sociably. I enjoy baseball and play dominoes ( very tipical of an latin girl ). I like to walk, it helps me calm my mind. I am working on not trying to plan for things.. Because I get upset when things do not go as planned. I am trying to let go of having control over situations and go with the flow.

I do not like Sarcasm and loud people(PS: This is wdlex99, these two things are my bad habits that she hates). I think that is all, now you know what comes next... How about you? Do and do nots.


Her Lover
I love computers, though I havent had as much time in the last couple of years to mess with them like i used to. I love to eat sushi as well. I really dont have many hobbies anymore, since i work so much. But i do love football. Sundays are my days for football. I hate being late, I dont know why but it just bugs me. And I hate playing guessing games. I hate trying to figure out what someone is thinking. Drives me nuts. I can get along with most anybody. I'm pretty easy going, dont hold grudges, and I dont stay pissed too long...... unless its really bad (PS: me again, wdlex99, This is me to the teeth. Except for the football part, I like another sport a lot more.)

April 13 My Wife
Haha, so it bugs you when I do not have much to say?
I hope you get some much needed rest this weekend.


Her Lover
R u working today?

April 16 My Wife
no,( until 1:00 pm. Good morming my papi chulo. I have to go to the hospital to have some red drawn today.

April 16 Her Lover
Everything ok?

April 16 My Wife
yes, it is my regular checkup. where are you at today?


Her Lover
Sorry...I was in my office with 3 other people

April 16 My Wife
It is ok thats what I thought

April 16 Her Lover
R u still here

April 16 My Wife
i'm in my work area.

Her Lover
Do u need anything by any chance
Do u need anything by any chance

April 16 My Wife
No

April 16 Her Lover
I went out there and didn't see u

April 16 My Wife
I'm away from my area now.

April 16 My Wife
Can you smile some, That is one thing I like of you

April 16 Her Lover
Now I will
Actually I will smile more when u quit wearing those undershirts

April 16 My Wife
sorry papi, but remember that you would not be the only one to see and that is not my intention. I like it when only you and I know you are looking, it turns me on

Her Lover
Well can u at least bend over a little farther when I am in front of u

April 16 My Wife
Will try .
I wanted to ask you, do have hair on your chest ? : ?

April 17 Her Lover
No.....well maybe a few sprigs

April 17 My Wife
haha, send me a pic

Her Lover
Haha that may be one u don't want to see

April 17 My Wife
I can sacifice one time , I can only imagen your face. I want to see that pic

April 17 Her Lover
Haha.. an out of shape body

April 17 My Wife
I do not want to make you feel uncomfortable.

April 17 Her Lover
Lol...why do u want a pic of hairs on my chest? I have plenty

My Wife
I am not trying, but you do not sound comfortable with a half nude pic lol

April 17 Her Lover
I don't have a body like yours

April 17 My Wife
please.... Ok papi chulo I have some hw for you. I want you to write about a fantasy you have with me, you can use any reading material to help you create it. ;*
I still want to see your chest !!!
If you had a body like mine we would no be having this conversation lol

April 18 Her Lover
What r u wearing underneath

My Wife
Wait and see.

April 18 Her Lover
And how and when?

April 18 My Wife
Check out my pic

Her Lover
you are soo sexy...... Like that pic
so you asked me to think of a fantasy....i dont have time to write it out now..... but i will tell you what I would love to do..... im on the elevator leaning against the wall, you walk in and stand in front of me, with your back to me....as soon as the door closes and we begin to move, i quickly reach around you sliding my hands into your pants, putting my finger into your flower feeling your wetness....as we come to a stop i pull my hand out and step to the other side of the elevator. you walk one way and i walk the other.... then i put my finger in my mouth to taste your sweet nectar

April 18 My Wife
Wow... Sounds so exiting makes me wet. ;*. But I think you would love to taste from the flower...

April 18 Her Lover
Let's go for an elevator ride


April 18 My Wife
Maybe one day my papi chulo
I will have great pleasure tonight while thinking of you....

April 19 Her Lover
I hope you did

April 19 My Wife
Good morning, I just woke up ;* yes I did, did you ?

April 19 Her Lover
So tell me what u like and don't like in the bedroom


My Wife
Haha... I have a soft n a tuff side.... I enjoy soft kisses on my back, a gentle nible on my neck. I love kissing a good kiss drives me crazy. I enjoy oral pleasure on my breast. I love making love n enjoy having SEX. I like to ride on top, doing it standing up ummm... I like a gentle hair pull jaja. I love to use my full lips

April 19 My Wife
I do not like vibrators why use a fake when u can enjoy thr real thing. I do not like nasty words...
How about you

April 19 Her Lover
I love undressing a woman, then explorer ng every inch of her body. I love pleasuring all areas with my tongue. I love hearing moans. I also like being orally pleasured. Especially when she uses no hands.

April 19 My Wife
That sounds very good... what are you doing today?


My Wife
you forgot about me today,hope you have a great weekend.

April 21 Her Lover
nope....i knew you were away and figured you couldnt talk

April 21 My Wife
with you always, un beso
are you ok? because of your post on FB?

April 22 Her Lover
yeah..... just some people i have to deal with at work...lol


My Wife
K

Monday Her Lover
question.............. I may stay in the next town over next Thursday night as I have to work in our other office...... If I do, do you think you might can find a way to come down for a while?

Monday My Wife
Maybe...... Time, place how?

Monday Her Lover
well if i stay i obviously will get a hotel room. I have to work until 8 so it will have to be after 8

Monday My Wife
Time is ok...

Her Lover
So u think u can come in the evening?

Monday My Wife
Yes

Monday Her Lover
Ok... I will let u know..... how u going to pull it off

Monday My Wife
I do not know yet , but I will. I have freedom to go out. I have a question why do you have to stay there?

Tuesday Her Lover
I don't have too but it might be just as cheap to stay down there than to drive back and forth for two days


My Wife
Ok make sense , r u having a busy day?

Tuesday Her Lover
Pretty steady....u?

Tuesday My Wife
Just going to get a pedicure

Tuesday Her Lover
Nice....
U work tomorrow?

Tuesday My Wife
yes...


My Wife
got my laptop we talk later

Yesterday Her Lover
so what happend this morning?

Yesterday My Wife
It was a busy morning....

Yesterday Her Lover
you acted funny about it

Yesterday My Wife
I do not understand?

Her Lover
just the way you acted when you were telling me about leaving your phone and it being an interesting morning. You acted like something had happend or something

Yesterday My Wife
no, everything is find but my phone is my connection to you ... and we are so busy, we can not talk... and that was when I just realized I did not have it.

Yesterday My Wife
I meant fine hahaha

Yesterday My Wife
my brain is fried today

12 hours ago Her Lover
...lol.... why


My Wife
Had a nasty day at work... Glad I made you lol

11 hours ago Her Lover
What happend? Why was it so bad

11 hours ago My Wife
because the ..... (i skipped this part as it was very work related and irelevant) Hate picking up after lazy people. I like what I do but not to the point to be overworked. sorry I need to uffff got it out of my chest LOL

Her Lover
What time do u need to know by. I haven't even had time to sit and try and find a room

8 hours ago My Wife
By 5pm, but if you did not plan to stay it is ok we can share a take ....

8 hours ago Her Lover
I brought a bag... now my flower is texting saying she is sick....lol... it just hasn't stopped today

8 hours ago My Wife
Ok papi, no problem maybe next time.
I hope she gets better

Her Lover
I didn't say for sure that I wasn't staying

7 hours ago My Wife
LOL ok let me know

4 hours ago My Wife
I am going to take a shower, i will check my Msg in a bit. Please let me know.

3 hours ago Her Lover
Im staying


My Wife
On my way

2 hours ago Her Lover
Ok

2 hours ago My Wife
Where do we meet ?

2 hours ago Her Lover
Just come to where im staying....where r u

2 hours ago My Wife
Far.... haha just getting to the highway


Her Lover
Ok....let me know when your almost to this town

2 hours ago My Wife
Ok

2 hours ago My Wife
in 10 ml

2 hours ago Her Lover
Ok...come through town then a few miles out of town there will be an holiday inn hotel on your left. Its kinda off the road. Turn in there and come to the back where the pool is


My Wife
Im by your car

about an hour ago Her Lover
Get out

if you read the last post with the facebook conversation, you may want to read my post from 27 Apr 2012 10:33 considering I failed to mention this facebook conversation even though I new about it when I wrote the post. SO YES I FAILED TO STATE THE WHOLE TRUTH, or I LIED TO YOU ABOUT BEING 95% sure.



so after my wife tells me that in the morning we can have sex. She snuggles up to me and she says that she needs to confess something. She tells me that her friend wants to have a threesome and what do I think about it. MFF. My wife, her friend, and I. I told her that I did think her friend was cute and that I apoligize for calling her name out during sex one time a long time ago, but I seriously was not interested in a MFF with her friend. I told her the idea of something like that got me excited, but not with her friend maybe a MMF. That is when I showed her my boner. She was tired at that point and told me that we weren't having sex tonight, then she confessed that the proposition was not real and I waited for her to fall arelax.

so I am in my bed wondering who the hell did she meet at a hotel. It's picking at my brain like voltures on a dead body. At 2:30am, i agree I won't relax tonight, so I should go to work do my 8 hours and then come home and relax as friday evening was going to be a long road trip for my and my wife out of town on something we planned. I don't want to wake my wife so in the dark I grab the car keys and my office keys and head to the office, get there, and realized I grabbed my wife's keys, so I drive all the way back home and grab the right set of keys. On my way back to work, i start thinking, she told me that she doesn't like the guy from work anymore, so who the hell is this guy. That kept going thru my head. I finally pack up my laptop and deside to drive to the hotel that was at least an hour away. I get there and survey the area. Based on what I recalled from the coversation, I figured she had parked in a particular area because he asked her to turn around so the only place with parking on both sides of the street was on the front. I asked the front desk for the room closest to the entrance of the hotel. This way I can see him thru the window of my room. I get in the room and I make an attempt to work, but I can't, my mind is racing as much as it is now. I go to the parking lot and review all the cars in the front and none of them had clues that they were from my town.

Did I mention I havent slept since this all started. I should be relaxing now. but my mind is racing with what is going on in his mind at this point and I have to wait until monday. OK so back to the story.


I couldn't work, so I start to reread the facebook conversation and I remember that he said he was in the back next to the pool. I pack everything up and go back to the front desk and ask the manager to give me a room as close to the pool as possible. He explains he already gave me a room, I said I did not care, I will pay for the other room if needed. I explained I have been working at the computer for the last hour and have not touched anything in the room. I want to work and see the sunrise next to the pool. He agreed after doing a quick inspection of the room.

I went to the back and there was his car, exactly how my wife described it in the facebook post(PS: I removed the description for obvious reamisters) I took pictures of the car and everything. I waited in my room and about an hour and a half later, I went to look up and there he was. Not only that, I think he saw me. He may recognize me from my wifes actual facebook account since they were public friends. I just kept looking at him as he patiently got into his car. The back had two roads that lead to the front. He happens to pick the road where I had parked my car, which he may or may not know is my wifes car as well as we switch cars from time to time. as he drives away, about a minute later he drives back to the back of the hotel. I had already closed my window and started packing and he drives off through the other exit. So for some reamister he decided to turn around and come back. At that point, I knew he had recognized her car. I know people had talked about it at work considering it is a very nice car for the position that my wife works. People at her job talk. so he must have known that and he got scared. Me staring at him through the window did not help either, but I thought I was far away enough where he wouldn't feel like I was watching.

At this point, I am releaved. Because I was happy it was him. From everything I've heard people say about him and what my wife has said, and his permisteral facebook, he seemed like a cool guy. So at this point I am afraid he recognized me which will probably break all chances of a future arrangement. But then again I am still mad because she said she didn't like him and didn't see him anymore at work.

more in the next post.

So I drive home and when I get home, I ask my wife to come along for a ride. She was up as it was already light out when I got home. We started driving. I told her, "honey, I need to tell you something." I was hoping and hoping that she would admit everything when these next few words came out. And thinking back now, I chose the wrong words, but I was hurt because she lied. I said to her "Honey, you know how I like seeing you sexually excited and how I am ok if someone else brings her that excitement, well, honey, I want you to tell me about the threesome you had last night." Since she had told me she went to her friends house, and her friends husband was there, I decided to hold my cards back and hoped that she would confess. Genuine fear was the expression that was in her face. I re-enpowerd her that It doesn't bother me if she did this, but that I want her to tell me about it. She denied it and asked how can I think that she would do something like that. I kept explaining about the proof I had. The marks on her chest. The cleanliness of her pussy when I went down on her. The hair I found on her pussy. the softness of her lips. The smell of cigarettes in her month. about a good point into it, I explain, that I know she wasn't in a threesome with her friend. That I feel she was with the guy from work that she said she didn't like. Again she denied it many times, saying how could it be possible that I can think such a thing. I kept explaining that I was not mad as long as she told me the truth. she denied it. I kept pleading, almost begging that she stop lying to me. I finally had to pull out the cards, and said that I saw something on her laptop that I wasn't supposed to see. At this point we had talked for about an hour and she finally gave me the story below.

She said she had met him at a restaurant, and they had takes. At this point I tell her repeatedly, honey, stop lying to me. And then she said, ok, after the takes we went back to his hotel room to talk because he didn't want to be seen in public with another woman. If you read the facebook post, you would know she is still lying as she went straight to the hotel. I asked her, that I am not mad, that I am glad that she did this, but that I need her to tell me in detail of what happened in the hotel. She went into details of how the spent the night talking. I asked her again not to lie to me and she kept insisting that that was all that happened.

my brain is foggy, so I don't recall all of the detail. but at this point I knew she was hiding something because she lied about the restaurant. I keep telling her that I was ok with her going to the hotel to see him. That I would not have been mad if she went out see him as long as she told me about it. I finally got it into her head that I was not mad. we had make up sex. I made her come five times. the only reamister I came was because she said something like, "I've been a bad girl, punish me harder" or something to that affect. Again I haven't slept in days so I can't recall. We hug and kiss and I keep explaining how I am ok with what she did and if she had wanted to take it further with him, that I would have been ok. She looked at me like I was crazy. I told her that our relationship is where it is today partly because of what she has been doing with him. We have had the best sex in the last 3 months of our 12 year history. And to tell the truth, it is also partly because of our recent communication and ability to forgive, which allowed us to open up about dead subjects that were never buried. I kept trying and trying to enphaze that I don't want her to lie to me. Please don't lie to me ever again, I don't care what it is, I want her to talk to me.

after the make up sex, I look at her laptop as she was playing music, and I go to look at her facebook as for some reamister she doesn't realize that closing a tab doesn't exit you of facebook. And I see that the conversation between her and him had been deleted.

about an hour goes by and she steps out of the house to get something and I open her laptop, I'm still thinking why did she lie about the restaurant. I open her laptop, and I see that all of her messages to him were deleted. I think to myself why in the world did she delete those facebook posting. What is she hiding. Then I see a new message from him asking her if everything was ok. She said to him that instantly, that everything was ok, but I was staying around the house so she couldn't talk. that she will talk to him later.

I got a little mad when I saw this conversation. In his words, I knew he was concerned. I knew he saw the car. later on I find out he was the one who deleted the conversation as my wife said he had the password to her account. another reamister I can't relax and am excited about monday when they talk.

so she gets home, and I'm thinking, let me see if my wife will actually be honest with me. An hour goes by and I eventually ask her, "So have you contacted him?" She says no. This got me mad. I eventually start talking to her and saying the same message, I don't care about what you did, just tell me the truth. I am ok with what ever happened last night. Just tell me the truth. I asked her again if she slept with him. She said no. She kept insisting no. I kept telling her then tell me what happened last night. She kept saying that she already told me. I told her stop lying to me, she insists that she is not lying to me. I ask her again if she contacted him, and she again said no. I raised my voice at one point and she told me not to yell and I apoligized. I had to tell her again that i know she is lying and to tell me what happened. I told her that I know she contacted him and that I saw it on the laptop. She eventually told me that she had kissed him. that they made out. The only thought that went through my mind was the fact that she kissed him and that same night when she came home, she licked my lips before kissing me and while I noticed his cigarette breath on her mouth, she told me that she needed me to fuck her. To tell you the truth this turned me on. I again told her, was that so hard for you to tell me. I am not mad. Again, I wasn't taking into consideration what said "I_A_S_P", about her desire to keep something private for herself. but then again I did not get a chance to read his post about this. I felt her lying to me, dismissed her that right to privacy."I_A_S_P" please comment if you feel that I was wrong.

i some how notice that he had asked her again if everything was ok and i again asked her that day if he had contacted her and she said no repeatedly. I told her that he did contact her, and that I know about it, and she said that she honestly has not checked, because she doesn't want me hounding her. I told her I would not hound her if she would not lie to me. I told her that he was concerned and wanted to talk. She said she did not want to talk to him. i kept insisting that she do, to let him know that everything is ok, especially since in my mind, I figured he knew about me knowing because of the car.

The way she talks, I just knew she was hiding something. I asked her if she loved him and she sincerly said no. I again asked her what else happened that night because she is keeping something from me, and she kept denying anything else happening. I said fine, then message him back and tell him all well, but she refused. I kept telling her that i need her to write back to him, and she kept telling me that she didn't want to be pressured. At one point I finally told her, I know you are hiding something from me and I won't be ok until she can prove it to me. I asked her to message him that everything was ok and to ask him what was his favorite moment from last night.

She flat out refused again, about 35 times. I finally said, I can't live with someone who won't be honest enough to tell me everything that I ask of them. I told her if she will not text him during our conversation, then I could never trust her ever again in my life so this would be the end. I explained I will not be the jelous husband going thru everything the way my man still is with my lady. PS: My mom never cheated on him as far as I know, but his previous wife did. I then said to my wife, that I'm getting dressed. As soon as I walked into the closet and put my hands on a pair of pants, she said she will talk. She blurted out that he sucked on her breast and she made him cum. I asked how, did she make him cum, and she admited to oral. I then asked if she used protection and she said yes. I asked her if that was all, she said yes. I believed every word that she said after that.

She was crying, hard. she was lying to prevent me from getting hurt. She said that was all that happened. That when he tried to touch around her private part, she said that this night was not for him, that it was for her. She is doing what she wants and he has to respect her wishes. She explained to him that her pussy belongs to her husband and only he can make her come. I just kept kissing her and telling her that I loved her and that I am not mad about what she did. I told her that I don't even need to forgive her about it because I am ok with it, I wanted this to happen, but I forgave her for lying to me. She looked at me like I was crazy. Asking how could I forgive her, that what she did was wrong, that she hurt me. That she feels dirty now. I begged her not to feel that way and that I am not hurt, and that all is great. While crying, she finally stated what "I_A_S_P" said. She said that she has always been the good lady, the good daugther, the good neighbor, the good church going wife. She needed to step out of her box and try something new, she wanted this to be her private thing and no one to judge her. I felt bad at that point. If I would have just brought my laptop home that night and I would not have saw the facebook on her laptop, this could have been avoided. What finally calmed her down, was when I said "honey, I am sorry that I took this away from you, but I needed to know what was in your heart. And I know that until you were honest with me." I explained that I didn't take anything away from her. This private thing was still hers. I told her that she needed to tell me, because eventually, not today, not tomorrow, she will look at me walking with her somewhere and just think about that night, and only feel pain because she loves me so much. I explained that I freed her from that guilt, from that burdon. I also asked her, who could she share this with, her lady, her sister, her brother, her coworkers, her friends. She just kept shaking her head no. I said "exactly, you can't share this with anyone else in the world... except for me. I love you and I am so happy for you right now (a tear hit fell out of my eye.) I am so happy to see you are finally out of your box."

More to come.

i'm going to try to go to relax now. just so you are aware, my wife and I have been talking so much about everything that happened that my throat hurts. We are the closest we have ever been in our relationship. We have hashed out just about everything in our relationship. I have never felt better in my life. I am high at this moment. I need this rush to go away as a human body needs relax and I can't relax wondering how he is going to react on Monday morning. I explained to my wife that I want her to continue seeing him. She doesn't want to do it because the joy is partially gone because it is no longer prohibited. She said she also enjoyed having the power over him. She loved being able to make him cum 10 seconds after first putting her lips on his member. I explained to her that her power over him, excites him, it excites her, and it excites me. She kept saying it can't happen. I told her to do it for me. I got on my hands and knees and asked her to do this for me. I said, that there is no chance that in the town that we live that we will ever have a situation like this again. I told her I would give her her privacy if she wanted it. I want her to have her high again and I want to have this high again. As I told her before, I want to meet him, I want to be his friend. I like the guy. She asked me to come clean, asked me what do I want.

You need to read the post I wrote in the link below. to understand why I asked her for this. I said I wanted to be his friend. I wanted him comfortable around me, comfortable enough where He, my wife, and I can do the making out that she and her friend did with some guy she had just met. I told her this turned me on a lot and this is the only thing that I want. I don't care if a guy fucks her, I don't care about anything but what I just said. She agreed to help me make this happen. We don't know how, but she will make it her goal.
https://www.cuckoldplace.com/6_79319_1.html

My problem is that I just don't know how he will react on Monday. She agreed to tell him what she enjoyed about that night and to make plans for something new. I told her to be honest with him about everything if he asks about me. I just don't know how he will react and this troubles me. I'm just going to let her handle it. Wish me luck!

wdlex99

A smart king who lived long ago had many wives.

He said: "There be three things which are too wonderful for me, yea, four which I know not: The way of an eagle in the air; the way of a serpent upon a rock; the way of a ship in the midst of the sea; and the way of a man with a maid. Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth, and wipeth her mouth, and saith, ' I have done no wickedness' ".

You are being a good guy and can't understand why she is fucking with your head. It is much easier pulling teeth from an alligator than getting the story from wifey. The story keeps on changing until she stumbles upon one that will shut you up for a while. Soon afterwards, you uncover yet another instance of her infidelities and run naked through a brier patch all over again attempting to extract the latest batch of half-truths out of her. You can't grasp the problem seeing that wifey has full freedom to express her sexuality with others; and all she need do is keep you in the loop. Thinking that you and she have talked things over and come to a mutual understanding; you turn around and discover that she's pulling yet another stunt. Very maddening predicament!

Your wife is behaving like any normal woman would in her situation. She ignores your concerns because it's none of your business and she full well knows that you won't (or can't) do anything about it. There may be much love and caring between you and wifey but the two of you don't have any real "Cuckold Chemistry" together.

Seems to me that your options here may include: Leaving; stopping all wifey's trysting (good luck with that one); or letting things continue until she breaks your spirit and you finally learn to accept her infidelity and stop meddling in her sex life. You and she are good people. The main difficulty I see in your relationship is that you really must learn how to understand women! A dog will obey you where a cat (or a woman) will just glare at you and do whatever she wants.

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I_A_S_P,
I'm glad to hear what you said because I truly am not on the offense of the cuckold chemistry. It feels more like I want an open relationship. But it turns me on to know that she is turned on as well. I like seeing her wet after talking to him. I like the fact that after we talked about all this, she came home and I noticed that her pants were soaked, she was dripping, and her panties were soaked as well when I asked her to take them off. I wish I had taken a picture but we were in a rush to leave the house again.

You are right, she does not want to share details with me and I told her I was OK with it. I don't care as long as she doesn't lie anymore and tells me she is not ready to share a particular detail. We will see if she stops lying. We have spoken a lot in the last three days and we feel very close now, but as you said how close can you get to a cat.

She's stated that I have the freedom to play as well, though I feel this is more just her conscience talking than her true feelings as she was really uncomfortable when I told her about a brief example of kissing with a mutual friend. But it seems she got over it and asked if I can locate this old friend.

She is emphasizing that she does not want to fuck him, she just likes to have the power over him. How far she goes to maintain that power, I don't know, and I am OK with any decision she makes. I'm a picky guy so my chances of finding another submissive women that I can control, is a bit hard for me. But we will see and I'm not really looking for this currently.

Thanks for your info. very eye opening. She is currently very insecure if I distance myself from her. For now at least. We are both really happy now. Like teenagers. I'm sure the best is yet to come, or a really nasty divorce, either way and we will both be happy in the end.

Very interesting stuff wdlex99. I wasn't trying to give you "bad" advice and don't believe that I did but it is your journey and i wish you well. You and I have a lot in common. Ever take LSD? You have now. Hope your landing is a smooth one.

Geecrizz,
i'm glad you said what you said, because in the end, I would have felt like a pussy if I let this pass, and then I couldn't prove what she was saying. Asking her to talk to him via FB was the only way I could prove what she said. She admitted to sexual contact, which is all I wanted to hear. She says she didn't fuck him. She says fucking is our thing. If that is the case, then I'm ok with it, if she fucked him, then fine too.

As far as LSD, never taken it. But thanks for letting me know so I could prepare if that day ever happens. I still haven't slept. She is going to see him sometime today at work. I told her that if I come up, that she assure him that I'm not mad. I'm hoping I didn't mess this up for her. She got all dressed up for work this morning and I helped her pick out her clothes. She projected a feeling of not understanding why I would help her look her best. I thought I've been clear for months now on my intentions. Every time she projects this doubt in me, makes me wonder what she really wants. Hey, I'm still in the rush though, I just hope that she talks to him today to get closure and so I can get some relax tonight. Day 4 and My mind still won't shut up long enough to let me relax.

My rush is over. at least temporarily. In my ideal world I would already be a part of their relationship. But apparently that is not going to happen anytime soon. She spoke with him and everything is OK between them. She doesn't want me involved physically anytime soon. She feels that would push him away. I don't want him to think he is playing me for a fool either, so I'm stuck. This concern of mine, concerns her as well. She says that if I am concerned about him feeling that way, then this should stop, because she doesn't know how I will feel in a month or two. Me bringing anything up leads her to continue to question if I am ok with it. Like I asked what his size was when she spoke about the last event, and she was concerned I had penis envy. She feels I am obsessed and I am. I'm going to let it ride and just listen going forward I guess. I hate that the only say I have in this is for it to stop.

thanks I_A_S_P

wdlex99

Bro! You are missing the point completely. The only thing you are accomplishing here is stressing out your wife. And yourself.

First, I do not see anything that wifey has done wrong to you or anyone else. She is NOT submissive and you do NOT control her. Her behavior should be teaching you that. You have acted very manic in your quest to foist your cuckolding ideas and lusts on her. This entire trip is your idea. You have continually pressed her to seek a lover. If she so much talks to another man, you harrass her for every last detail. You push her to the point that she feels the need to lie to you just to get you off of her back. You judge every last detail of her actions and then rail on her for not doing things YOUR way. Then you flip out on her because she is powerd to lie to you about things that she considers permisteral. Hint: Ask her no more questions and she'll tell you no more lies.

She is very insecure and yet you seem to have no interest in keeping your marriage. If she decides to play it your way it is OK. If she won't play then it is a nasty divorce, but you'll still be happy. WTF is up with that? How close can I get to a cat? Very close! How? Because I know the difference between a dog and a cat. I own a dog. I tell him what to do. He may make a face and grudgingly obey me, but in a couple minutes he'll come over, sit at my feet and want a pat on the head. My cat owns me. When she came to me she watched how I interacted with the dog and my sweetheart. When the cat felt I was worthy she decided to possess me! Now she always keeps me in sight because I am HER human. Hint: Guys and gals think and behave differently when dealing with the same situation. You have no right to expect any woman to do more than she wants and feels comfortable with doing.

While you two are lovey-dovey like teenagers right now, I suggest that you admit to wifey that your excitement over her trysting with other men blinded you from seeing how cuckolding is incompatible with your marriage. I suggest that you apologize to her for powering your lusts on her. I suggest that you apologize to your wife for foolishly pressing her with many permisteral questions AND getting mad at her for lying when you pinned her into a corner. I suggest that you throw this whole cuckold business out the window and stress how important it is that she forgives you. Work with her on strengthening the marriage. Hint: You fucked up big time here and you have lots of damage control if you care about saving your marriage.

You have not been clear in your intentions these past months in any way, shape or form. Why DID you help wifey pick out her clothes today? I feel sorry for wifey because I know that when she comes home tonight she will be inundated with a slew of permisteral questions because you'll be acting like a total asshole yet again. Hint: Keep behaving like you have been and you can bet the rent that one day soon she won't bother coming home to you . Ever.

My advice: You have screwed things up big time. 100% of the responsibility for this is strictly on your shoulders. Be a man. Apologize to your wife. Ask her to help you become the man that she thought she married. No more interrogation. No more cuckolding. You are WAY too much of a control freak. No more discussions about her lying, relations with other men or other activities related to this whole cuck fiasco.

Remember: You brought this entire situation down on your own head. Wifey is 100% innocent. You are 100% wrong. Always be sincere with your wife (or any woman). I really hope that you can see the light and change your ways and save your marriage! You (not your wife) are currently far away from the proper path.

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