College in Northern Virginia

I started following this forum a few weeks ago and would like to get some ideas regarding our current situation. My fiancee Julie and I are second year students at a univesity in Northern Virginia. We have been going together since high school and engaged this past Christmas. No wedding date set yet, just the promise. Due to finances, we are saving money for a first house, so instead of getting an apartment together, we have decided to live in the dorms. We have been in the dorms since we started school last year, and we have kept our engagement quiet, no ring yet. So as far as most people around school think, we are occasional dates but nothing more. About a week ago, I found out one of Julies old high school flames was attending the same school this year. He is a Junior and he transfered from the west coast. I told her that Joseph was on campus and she said, that she hadn't seen him since she dumped him nearly 4 years ago. I told her that since we had agreed that we can date while living in the dorm as single people, I would not be angry at all if she would see if Joe was still interested in her. Joe is black and I have always had this fantasy about Julie goig out with and relaxing with a black guy. The major reamister they split back in high school was "he wanted to go all the way and she did not". Since then I took care of her virginity so that is no longer in question.

Julie asked me if I would mind if she dated him. I told her that she was free to date whoever. She reminded me that before they split up, she almost gave into him and she has seen and played with his cock. She said it had to be at least 8 inches soft.

I told her that what would really be exciting, if I would re-introduce him to her. I started dating Julie after they split so he never knew me. I have seen him working out at the gym and we have talked alittle. She did tell me that since the "virginity thing" is history, it might be hard to deny him. I told her to have fun and that I really don't mind a little competition. That was a week ago.

After I left Julie that afternoon, I saw Joe and we went to the Student Union for a soda and I asked him if he was interested in meeting a hot chic. I told him her name and he said Julie. He smiled and said that he had dated her back in high school but she didn't want to go as far as he wanted. He asked if I was dating her and I told him we dated a couple of times but nothing happened. I said she is very available. The next day I called Julie and she was to meet Joe and I at this restaurant and after I "made the introductions" I got lost.

The next day, I saw Joe on campus and he waved me over to him and he said that he really wanted to thank me for getting him together with Julie. He told me that he never thought he would have a second chance with her and he said "this time he is determined not to lose her'. I also helped him out another way, he was sharing a small room temporarily with another student. I had a double room, so I invited him to be room mates.

I did have an ulterior motive, in being able to see Julie come over to the apartment for a date with my room mate. They have had a couple of dates so far and he is taking her out tonight for a movie and dinner. He doesn't have a car, so I have been lending him mine for his dates with Julie.

I don't know if anyone here has felt the same way, a love for your girl but also a desire to see her make it with another man. Just for everyone's information we use condoms as our choice of birth control. I know a cuckold is usually married, but engaged is close enough I feel. I will write more as things develope.


Carl

I hope you feel VERY VERY VERY secure in your engagement, because you are very aggressively setting her up with someone else she was romantic with... you won't be a cuckold if she actually leaves you... you'll just be single.

You my man are fucked.

Julie and I have talked about this type of arrangement quite a bit, both in bed and out of bed. I have also told her numerous times that even if she would happen to get pregnant by some other man, I would marry her in a heart beat. No matter what the ethnic origin, color etc of the baby. She knows how I deeply feel for her and she told me that this is probably one of the most romantic thing a guy can do for a girl to let her have some serious fun before she marries. We both know the risks. We may be young but we thought this out, and not just with our sex glands. I respect all who have written thus far and will write, their opinions.

I would like to get ideas on how to make this even hotter while it lasts.

Carl

Hello Carl..
i have a question for you..Does Julie think that you let her have some fun and exciting time by arranging her some hot dates before marriage or does she also know about your being cuckold fantasy, too?

Carl - you definately have to keep us posted!!!

Last night I went to a movie at the theater on campus and sat by myself near the last row. About 5 rows infront of me Julie and Joe were sitting and like most of the couples there, not much of the movie was seen. I have to admit, it did feel strange, but hot, seeing my fiancee necking with this black guy. After the movie, I stayed in my seat and luckily it was dark, so they did not see me. They walked out of the theater hold hands and just being close.

I got back to the dorm before Joe, he got back about an hour later. He said that Julie and him have really reconnected. He asked me if there were any little things that I might know about Julie today, that would help him with her. I told him how she loves to be finger fucked and that would probably get him in the sack with her. I refreshed his memory about how she likes her tits massaged and her nipples bitten lightly. I told him what her favorite mistergs and movies are now and what she loves to do in her spare time.

I did tell him that on beautiful summer days like we had recently, she loves to park at this lake about 10 miles from campus and no one bothers you, no police nobody. I told him that we have been there a few times and each time we fucked. He asked me if he could borrow the car tonight Friday because he wanted to take her out for dinner. She loves seafood, so I told him which restaurant she really likes. He said he was thinking about dinner and then maybe if the weather holds the lake. I also told him that there is a motel near the lake if he really gets lucky.

That was last night, before we turned in. Today I had lunch with Julie, it was during class for Joe. She told me that she had to be honest and that it turns her on to be "wanted" by two men. I told her that is why dating is so hot, you can sample both of us and choose what you like. She then told me that they have necked the first three dates but she thinks he might want to go "further" tonight. She then said "remember how we spent our fourth date, dinner and then to a hotel and we slept together for the first time. I asked her if she wanted to relax with Joe and she whispered yes. I told her just be careful and have him wear a condom.

She then had to go, because she promised Joe she would meet him after class.

I know I will be hot, looking at porn sites tonight while Joe and Julie probably end up at a hotel.

To answer the previous questions, Julie knows about my cuckold fantasy and she teases me during our foreplay about it. That things could get out of my control and she might not consider that bad. I told her again that I love her and that even if she would get pregnant by another man, I would still want her as my wife. She usually kisses me deeply then and says "remember that".


Carl

Hi everyone


I am sitting in my dorm this afternoon and just thinking about Julie. She and Joseph went to Virginia Beach with some other couples for the day, but I had to study. Last night, I didn't hear Joe get in, but this morning I saw him and he thanked me again for introducing or re-introducing him to Julie. After dinner they went to the lake and for about two hours they petted. He said he forgot how sexy and hot Julies vagina was. She let him fiinger her for a while while she massage his aching cock. He said he also forgot how wonderful her lips and tongue felt on his cock. After this play, he suggested that motel near the lake and they got a room and he said that he used four condoms before they fell arelax and two more in the morning. He got back to our apartment right when I was getting up. He also told me that they were going with some other couples to Virginia Beach for the day and maybe make a weekend out of it. He asked me if I had some extra condoms and I gave him a couple of boxes that I had just bought. Joe is definitely about 8 or 9 inches and I am six at the most so I told him I hope these hold. He told me thanks and that they should be fine.

I have to admit it is hard to study knowing that Julie will undoubtedly be screwing Joe all weekend and he will be using condoms that are a little small for his cock. It is definitely erotic to me that I am not the only man any more that knows her vagina. I will let you know if anything new developes over the weekend.

Carl

Good stuff Carl. Keep us informed.

With my roommate out with my girl, I have some time on my hands. You can only hit the books so long. I have a few questions for some of you guys that have much more experience than I do. Has anyone had a situation where they used a rubber that was too small and did it stay intact or did it break? Has anyone deliberately tried to make the condom break just by the way you fucked your girl? (the intensity of the loving). If the condom broke what were your initial emotions, feelings and what about your girls feelings. Has anyone ever started their family, unexpectedly due to a bad fitting condom. On campus I see quiet a few black-white couples pregnant or with mulatto youngren and I can't help but get a hard on thinking that if things go Joseph's way, Julie could be like the other girls I saw. Today I saw a stunning blonde nursing under a tree on campus, her little half white/half black baby. I told myself, if I let things really get out of hand this could be Julie.

Thanks for listening to my questions.

Carl

Had a chance to chat with Joe last night when he got back from his weekend date with Julie. He told me that Julie is really a super girl and that he really screwed up big time pushing her last time around. I told him that I have found that she loves the courting and just the romance of romance. I think he learned that now, he told me that even though they spent the weekend together, they only made love three times and each time with condoms. I asked him if the rubbers I gave him fit well enough and he told me that he decided to play it safe and stopped at a have store before picking up Julie for their date. He picked up a supply of condoms that would fit. He did borrow my car and he brought it back topped off with gas. I was going to ask Julie out for lunch and maybe some afternoon delight, but he had made arrangements with her earlier for lunch and dinner, they are also going to come over to our dorm to study. Julie has been here before but always as my date, this will be quite different. I will let everyone know how things go. Again I know that I am really playing with fire and some might even consider it reckless because there are no "strong" legal ties between Julie and I but that is what makes this hot and erotic.

If anyone would like to correspond by email my email is [email protected].


Carl;)

This is really interesting, please keep us posted! I'm worried about you, though. You should find the time, now that she is having sex outside your relationship, to talk to her about where you two stand.

Monday night Julie came over to study and at first it was alittle strange. When she came in, instead of giving me a kiss, all she said was hi. I yelled to Joe to tell him that Julie was here and he took her in his arms and they kissed for a while. I went into the kitchen to get a take so not to be that obvious. Also to hide my hard on. There is just something about seeing your girl make out right infront of you, especially when you know that she has already been to bed with her new guy.

We were sitting in our "living room area", I was on a bean bag chair and Julie and Joe on the couch. Not that much reading got done. I was trying not to stare but its hard especially when they were cuddling and necking like I wasn't there. I get wet on the tip of my cock when I heard her call him "honey" ( something she called me till this point) and he called her babe. When it was almost 9 PM, I excused myself and said I was going to my private area and go to bed. I laid in bed, stroking myself and listening. I heard what I thought was whispering and giggling. I peaked out my door and I could see the back of the couch. And I saw a blouse, bra and a guys underwear thrown on the rug.

The next day, I chatted with Joseph and he said that he hoped I didn't mind the imposition last night. I told him this is his home also and I also said that if he ever wants to have the apartment/dorm alone, just let me know and I could find another place to stay. He then asked me if I wouldn't mind that evening. I told him no problem and he said that he wanted to make her dinner that evening and then spend the night together. That was last night (Tuesday night). I got back to my place late morning and they were gone. I went into our bath room and I found five full condoms in the trash, a bra, and panties behind the door near the shower. It is so hot knowing that he has so much cum in his nuts and that if his condoms ever broke she could find herself as an expectant mom.

Tonight is more of the same, they are going to her dorm to study while her roommate is over at her boyfriends place off campus.

I did have a chance to talk to her while Joe went to take a leak and Julie said, "I hope you like what you see so far, since this is what you wanted". He then came back and kissed her and said "missed me".

They have been only going together a little over a week but he has moved fast, but I will be a gentleman and let him have alittle more time to date her without my interfering. Before we started this, Julie did say it would be hot to date two guys at the same time so that is very hopeful.




Carl

Carl
Interesting scenario burst condoms, no
problem, as in "morning after pill".
Unless she wants to get pregnant.
Do you folk have photo capability on your cell phone, if so it would be interesting to have him capture her performance and blue tooth it to your phone, or computer.
Certainly interesting for your readers.

Man, I can't decide if I should envy you or worry for you. I guess I'll do both. Please keep us posted!

Wednesday night Joe did not come home till the next morning to pick up some books. Julie was with him, she looked very nice, halter top and very short skirt. I talked with her as Joe puttered around his private area and she said that she is doing very well and she actually asked me if I was going to call her. I just said that I have been busy and will have to see. (I really am waiting to give Joe some time to make some serious progress with her before I reenter the fight for her favor). She did tease me a little by saying that Joe is so big, the maximum condoms really get a test by him. She also said, don't worry they have not broken yet. The way she said it (you guys know the way) she made it clear that such an "accident" could happen if I do not step in to try to stop it.

She knows I set this up and she is playing to to the hilt and enjoying every moment and I have to admit so am I. I know Joe is. I was thinking the first of July would be a good date to get back on her phone call list. That would give her and Joe three more weeks of exclusive fucking.

Carl

Yesterday Julie called me and I was rather suprised to say the least. For the record I had a huge hard on, when I saw it was her number. She asked me if I had forgotten this promise that she made to one of her professors. This prof and his wife and kids were going to go on a European vacation at the middle of June. They knew Julie was "engaged" so they asked her if she wouldn't mind "house sitting" and that she and her "fiancee could use the time to really get to know each other. (You have to love liberal thinking professors). We originally were going to spend the two plus months, before they got back in September, to play like newlyweds. I asked her if we could get together to talk and she said lets go have dinner. I asked her about Joe and she said that he was playing some ball with his friends Friday evening so she was going to be alone.

We went to dinner and then to the lake so we could be alone. We necked and petted. She teased me by telling me how small I was compared to Joe (I measure about 5 or 51/2 hard). She said Joe was 8 at least. She also told me that the maximum condoms are stretched by him. She was holding my cock as she said this. I asked her if we could fuck but she said she was sore from Joe, but she would give me a bj. She licked me while asking me about the house sitting. I made up some bs excuse and said that she should ask Joe if he wants to help you. She kissed my balls and licked my pre-cum and said remember our plan. We were going to treat the house sitting time like a "honeymoon". I said, yes I remember. She then said "We were not going to use condoms, since how many newlyweds use them on their honeymoons". I asked her if she had remembered to set a MD appointment to be fitted for a diaphragm? She kissed my cock again and said that she "forgot" and that she could call for an appointment on Monday. I then said, "we were supposed to "move in" on Monday if I remember the earlier conversation. I guess I will just have to "chance it" and she took me in her mouth and sucked. I came and she has really gotten better since dating Joe. She usually gagged with cum but she took it all. As we were cuddling she told me that she hoped that she could get in right away to the doc because her dangerous time is coming up very shortly. I then kissed her sperm smeared lips and told her just enjoy and go with what you are feeling.

That was yesterday. Today I spoke with Joe and asked him how things were going. He told me he had a good game yesterday.Then he told me that I would be having the dorm alone for a while, until September. I asked him if he was going home and if everything was all right. He said, "Oh yeah, couldn't be better. He then told me that Julie had invited him to stay with her as she house sits. He said that he jumped at the chance to be living with such a hot chic for that long. I told him he better buy out the store on condoms. He laughed and said that his condom buying days may be over. He mentioned the same thing to Julie and she told him "how many people on their "honeymoon" use rubbers? And that they should conside this time living in a house off campus alone, as a pre or practice honeymoon. I then asked him if she was going to have any protection? Joe said that Julie told him that she would make an appointment with a doctor on campus for a diaphragm but that sometimes the wait is a couple of weeks. Joe asked her if this would be a "problem" and he said she kissed hm and said "its my problem for waiting" now I guess I will just have to live with whatever happens".

Joe has been packing essentials and is very happy. I have been hard most of yesterday and today thinking about Julie an Joe living "as a couple" for over two months. I do not know their names, but I heard another couple did this a few years ago for another professor and his family. That couple is now working on their third kid.

Carl

hi Carl
Must say terrific post, what are your desires for the future ?.
Even condoms, are not 100% reliable
in a sexual relationship as intense as you describe.
Where do you want your relationship to go with your hidden engagement.
Do you want to marry her 6 months from now already pregnant from another man. She being eternally grateful?.
Interracial baby or not there would then be 4 in this menage.
1/ white man white wife mix race baby. Black lover. More mix race babies later on, she is just committed to race relations you might say?.
2/ black man his white wife mix race baby; you, (where do you fit in here).
3/ babies require commitment, time, money, effort and love, to have the best chance in life. Are you ready for that?.

you may be chancing losing her in a very permanent way my friend

To Solvent and others,


I have to say that when I first started playing with the idea of having Julie date other men, it turned me on but what this has developed into is beyond my expectations. I have been thinking very much about what this could mean for my future, any future for myself and Julie and there are so many options and possibilities, too many to mention.

Before Joe left for his "temporary new home", we had a very long friend to friend talk. Joseph is not one of these jump any white chic and knock her up guy. He is thoughful and mature, and believe it or not, he will ask her again if she is sure she wants to go bareback especially where she is supposedly in her cycle. He told me that he considers Julie, "not just a piece of ass, but a very important permister in his life'. That statement made me jealous and hard at the same time and hammered home (in response to SissyBekah) the fact that Julie will undoubtedly have to decide between Joe and I in terms of whom she wants to marry. That might seem foolish to some people, especially having her like I did, exclusively. But I feel like I am experiencing an experience that only a few lucky guys get a chance to experience. A real competition for the love and future of a special girl. Stacking the odds, in the beginning, in Joe's favor, only makes the competition more intense.

I hope to see Julie tomorrow afternoon while Joe is busy.


Carl

hi Carl
Keep going with your story, it has peaked my interest.
I know the possibilities are endless but it was your desired outcome for the future that I was interested in.
solvent

Hi

Just have a couple of minutes, Julie was busy out shopping with some friends but I did find out from Joe (Saw him at the gym), that she called her Gyno doc and has an appointment on July 11 for a diaphragm. Being the summer class period, the clinic is very short handed and birth control is a big demand as you can guess. Joe said that Julie asked him to go with her to the appointment. I guess that makes sense since they are living together for a while. It is erotic in a way, wondering if they will be careful before she goes for the appointment. Joe did tell me that it is pretty nice waking up next to such a sexy girl and being able to have her when ever he wants. He also said that Julie loves to cook and is really showing off her "homemaker" capabilities. That comment got me hard also.

Have to run

Carl

wow, cool! Can't wait to hear more!

I got a phone call about an hour ago asking me to come to dinner tonight at Julie and Joe's temporary home. That sounds a little wierd (not the temporary part) just the Julie and Joe's. It sounds so married. I accepted and will write more when I get back. They asked me to come around 5 PM.

It will be so erotc seeing them as a couple.

Carl

Dinner was very nice and I have to admit, my emotions went from erotic fascination to jealousy. When I drove up to the house, I felt like I was visiting a "married couple". You know, the single family home, car (Julie's) in the drive way. I walked up to the door and Joe met me. I had bought a bottle of wine (seemed right to do) gave it to him. Joe yelled back in the house say "Honey, Carl is here". Julie came out of the kitchen wearing a crop top that showed off her "charms" and some jeans, nice and tight. When she came in the room, she said "hi" to me as she came over to Joe and gave him a playful kiss, and took the bottle. We had steak and I do have to say, Julie is a damn good cook. After dinner, we went into the kitchen to help Julie clean up. While we were cleaning, Julie was rinsing the dishes, before putting them in the dish washer, and Joe came over to her, and just like it was totally natural, put his arms around her, and it looked just so damn hot with her bare midriff. She said, "now what do you want, and he said "I just wanted to tell you how much I love having you her right now". She turned around and kissed him, then she broke the kiss and said "remember we have a guest". That hit me also, being considered an "outsider" in "their life". We watched TV and talked the rest of the evening. I sat on a recliner and Julie and Joe on a "Love Seat". While we sat, they would kiss each other and as the evening went on it was clear I was the "third wheel", so about 10 I excused myself. They saw me off at the door and I knew that once that door closed, they would be making a bee line to the bedroom. The only thing missing was the ring set on the left hand. They really looked hot and connected. I also thought to myself that maybe by the time she gets to her doctor appointment, it maybe for more than getting measured for a diaphragm. Has anyone else ever had to wait or have a girl friend or wife wait for an appointment to get a diaphragm, and then when she finally gets to the appointment she is getting check over for a brand new pregnancy?

Carl

you should get together with her and go down on her after she's been with Joe...

I must have been reading your mind, because I just got back from having lunch with Julie and I thanked her for a nice dinner last night. After we finished eating we went for a drive ( Joe was busy with some basketball), so we went to the lake and I tried to enjoy my fiancee). At first she seemed alittle stand offish, but then we got into it. She told me that she was wondering when I was going to make a play to get her back, and I told her that I am just taking advantage of Joe being busy. But I was going to really get back into the hunt after the first of July. She asked me if I am jealous. I told her that I am more turned on than jealous. She asked me if I had any second thoughts about introducing Joe to her. I told her that it is too late to worry about that, but that I would like to have her even after Joe takes her. She then told me that if I don't mind, I can date her even while she is living with Joe, but she made it very clear that every evening she will be back in Joe's bed. I told her no problem and then I asked her if she would like me to be her birth control. She looked a little confused and then I said, when she doesn't use a diaphragm, or anything else, I can clean her up. She seemed turned on by that but she said she will ask Joe if he would mind. I will let you let all know what she tells me. I will have a date with her tomorrow night, we are going to a movie.

Carl

Sorry about the quick follow on post, but I just got a text message from Julie, she wrote that she spoke to Joe and he wants to talk with me and her about having me "clean her out after they make love". I am going to meet them at their "temporary" home in about an hour and a half.

Will let everyone know what happens, but my heart is racing and I have a hard on.

Carl

Talking with Joe and Julie was one of the most erotic moments of my short life. We sat down in the living room and had a beer. Julie was sitting on Joe's lap and his arm was strategically sitting on the cleavage of her crop top. Joe said that Julie had told him what she and I had discussed about me eating her out after he had her. He said that I could eat her and I could also make love to her but I have to wear a condom. Here this "friend of mine" was dictating how I was going to love my "fiancee". Julie said that she wanted me to eat her out during the periods of the month that she could get pregnant. She said otherwise, I might as well move in with them, and they laughed about that idea. (Although I could go for it). Julie then said that she is going to cancel her appointment to get fitted for a diaphragm and that the only birth control they will use is "my ability to suck out sperm from her vagina. She then told me that she is within the 3 day window of being fertile tomorrow (Friday evening). I asked her if we still were on for our date, and she said sure, but make sure you have condoms and remember I have to be back "home" by at least 10 PM. But you could bring an overnight bag with you, and you can stay in the guest room the entire weekend to be her birth control. Joe then said, if Julie and I become parent's you can say that you had a big part in "it" by missing some sperm. I told Joe that I am not into the bi thing at all and he said that was "cool". Then Julie said, would you like to start being my birth control now. I had a huge bulge in my pants and Julie said I think he is. I followed them into the master bedroom but Julie said, "we will call you when you are needed, so please wait in the guest room (which was across the hall). I waited for nearly two hours before Joe knocked on my door and said that Julie is waiting for you. I was very hard seeing Julie lying on the bed, in obvious excitement. A pillow under her ass and only a little sperm dripping out. I began kissing her and I asked if she already came. She told me that she is ready to come and that if I lick her clit as I begin cleaning her she definitely will orgasm. Then she reminded me that if she has her orgasm before I finish cleaning her, her orgasm will suck Joe's baby makers well beyond my reach or the reach of anything for that matter. I started sucking her clit and vagina and in about a half hour was finished and she came as I finished her off. I was still loaded, so she got out a condom and let me have her. After I had her, I dressed and told her and Joe I would see them tomorrow. Julie said she would call me about the time for our "date". As I left the house, I heard them lock the door "for the night" and it really hit me again that I am the only thing standing between her unfettered life and being the mom to Joe's youngren.





Carl

Well, like the other guys commenting here, I'm afraid you might lose her - although the latest development shows that she is indeed a slut to be shared.... I would aim for a stronger part on yr side, loaning her out, sharing her and cleaning her up; but if you are the controlling party, the relationship may be sustainable - and, then, imagine the possibilities
Panos