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Sukebe

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You may want to consider that this "Bull" is actually her true love. Not to put a damper on things, but my wife is also Japanese and you know their sense of responsibility to the marriage....not necessarily you as a man.

What’s that saying Japanese proverb, "keep your husband well fed, healthy and out of the home at work." and this is for the relationships that do work! i.e. you're just a paycheck to pay for her life and marriage.

If you've spent any time in Japan then you can recall how they kept tight lipped about their extramarital affairs all the while trying to look very serious about their work and life. You may even have had them lecture you on how immature foreigners are and the such.

Anyway, I digress. The fact may be that your wife really loves this other guy and only he can make her hot. If the "Bull" stops playing and gets serious with her then you may come home to an empty house....and bank account. Better start setting aside some of your own loot just in case.

or

There may be a possibility that there is no bull and you just enjoy letting us all get hot over a women none of us have ever really seen, other than a fuzzy out of focus photo. I can't say I blame you though. The way the search engines pick up on this blog your wife could end up #1 on Google.
Sukebe
dcg1963

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Funny how we can each spend a considerable amount of time in Japan, and yet come to such completely different conclusions about Japanese women. Extramarital affairs are common...sure...but as for the number of Japanese women who subsequently leave their husbands for their lovers, I believe that number to be minute. I for one don't believe that his wife has any intention other than having a bit of exciting, no-strings-attached fun on the side. Sounds like she's happy in the marriage, and that this is just a bit of side entertainment, that she's keen to keep discrete and hassle free.

As for keeping a secret slush fund / stash of cash....we are on the same page there. Wife or no wife, that's always a good idea.

David
YouHerUs

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I am selective about what I post and that may lead to an incomplete scenario of what's going on. That is not going to change though. Partly I do this on purpose. I will never post someone's face for example. Partly I am just too busy to post every little thing. Partly I try to post as things develop in real time and sometimes nothing interesting is happening. It is exciting to know that my wife is relaxing with someone else and I am sharing that with readers here. Not trying to hit some standard of journalistic excellence.

The thought that my wife may be in love with the bull is an interesting one. Perhaps that is why she has not found another lover yet? Can't completely rule that out but I don't think that is the case. Her reaction to the come on at the new year's eve party tells me she is open to being with others. She rarely communicates with the old boyfriend bull anymore. I think the excitement has dropped quite a bit on both sides. Not that they won't jump into the sack if the opportunity arises but the first flood of hormones is no longer there.

My guess is that she would like to find someone else. It will not take much effort for her to find someone without even having to resort to permisteral ads. Just perch herself alone at a bar and I am sure she will be approached quickly. The question for her I think is safety and discretion. Some have suggested a swing club. That subject was playfully broached earlier in our marriage and she repeatedly said not interested. She has a firm idea of what a wife should be and swinging is not part of that even if sexually she clearly wanted more. I also don't think she will be nearly as adventurous if I am present or even she just know that I know about her activities. Maybe she will find herself a new lover somehow. Maybe not if she does not take the first step to make herself available. If she does find a new bull though, would I have same luck in convincing him to cooperate? Lots of ifs from this point forward.
dcg1963

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Rather than "love" being a motivating factor for her hooking up with her ex-boyfriend, I'm pretty sure that would have been motivated by both familiarity and with safety. Clearly her ex was a known quantity, and as they'd already been sexual in the past, being that way again wasn't really a big step. As you said...now that the initial excitement has worn off, the thrill of it has probably subsided, with him.

In regards to whether she'll hook up with another guy....well, as you noted, her response at the New Year's eve party suggests that she is turned on by the very thought of it, and did react to the attention he gave her, very positively.

She's not prepared to jeopardise her marriage over this though, so I'm certain she'll be very, very cautious in who she chooses to hook up with. She'd have to be confident she could trust them to be discrete....and that probably means she'd choose a married guy, who wants no more than only the no-strings-attached exciting fun she wants.

There are a lot of ifs...for sure....but if I were you, I'd feel pretty confident she'll stray again. As with anything....the first time you break the rules is the hardest.

Let's hope she can find a suitable stud, and get back to business on a more regular basis....secure in the (false) knowledge that you don't know about it.
asian_fever

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dcg - expert in all things japanese! how ya going mate?!

Me - I had a double j-slut Christmas day! How sweet that was!

But seriously, no matter what I get, I still always feel like I am missing out. Academic year is about to begin. New plane loads of j-girls will arrive in town. Christ - I can't take it!!
dcg1963

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I'm going pretty well thanks mate. Long time no speak...and very glad to hear from you.

As for you having had a double j-slut Christmas Day....YOU LUCKY, LUCKY, LUCKY, GIFTED BASTARD !!!!! I'm turning green with envy!

Sounds like you're not missing out on much, based on the former! As for a new plane load arriving in town soon, and you not being able to take it....I reckon that attitude will last only until you see your next MUST HAVE among them! LOL

As for me being the expert in all things Japanese....far from it. I just call it as I have experienced it, and believe it to be. I'm certainly not the one with a monopoly on knowing the actual truth. If I was such a genius at all things Japanese....I'd be getting laid by them as much as you do. If I were a punter...I'd be taking your advice over mine, based on results. I talk the talk....you walk the walk.
YouHerUs

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good development...maybe even a fantastic one

I have a business acquaintance named Peter that I have known for several years though we are not close. We talk on the phone a few times a year. Every so often he would be in town and I would take him out for lunch or dinner. Strictly business conversations. We were on the phone last week and talking about...what else...the lousy business environment and how all the rules of the game have changed. He mentioned that at least he has some familiarity with some of what's going on because he had done some restructuring work in Japan. So it turns out this guy is fairly fluent in Japanese and had lived in Japan for a couple of years.

Anyway, he was planning to come into town so he was calling to make an appointment with me to catch up on 2008 and see what's going on in 2009. I suggested he have dinner with me and my wife. I told him I also spent some time in Japan and my wife is Japanese so we will have much to talk about. I was not expecting anything more than dinner of course. The guy is clean cut business type so my wife's kind of man but we have a pretty clear business relationship. I just thought it would be fun for everyone to trade some stories about Japan and yes...I was looking forward to watching my wife interact with a man she never met before.

We had dinner at a Japanese restaurant later in the week. Peter and my wife hit it off and chatted at length. You have to realize that a gaijin doing business in Japan can become very knowledgeable about food. Japanese companies have big expense accounts for business meals and they take you to some amazing place. Many of the best places do not advertise. Barely a sign on the door. A regular permister will never be able to make a reservation and forget about walking in for a table. These are more private clubs than restaurants as we typically think about them. But the food is fantastic. So Peter was pretty well informed about Japanese food and the many grades of sake. Conversation among us was pretty easy as there was much to talk about.

Like I said, Peter and my wife hit it off. But I thought nothing more than that. No one was flirting. It was all just friendly talk and reminiscing about Japan and all it's coolness and weirdness. After a pleasant dinner, we said our good-byes and my wife and I went home. It was already pretty late so we got ready for bed soon after we got back. I was starting to fall arelax already when I felt my wife's hand down the front of my pants. She started to stroke me slowly until I started to get hard then she ducked under the blankets, pulled my pants down to my knees and started to lick up and down my shaft. As I got harder she took me in her mouth and start to give me a blow job with incredible intensity. When I became rock hard, she emerged from underneath the blankets, quickly stripped off the rest of my clothes and her clothes and pulled me on top of her. This is all very unusual for her. Typically I have to make the first move in bed. For her to be so aggressive is just amazing to experience.

She opened her legs and guided me inside her. Pulling me into her while thrusting her hips up to meet me. I was so excited by then I need no additional prompting to begin pumping away at her. She was thoroughly enjoying herself. Her head was tilted back. Her eyelids were fluttering a bit. She had a dreamy look about her. A thought then struck me and I did something that could have really backfired but it just happened. I said to her, "Are you thinking about Peter?" She opened her eyes and had a look of...hard to explain...surprise maybe..embarrassment? A little bit of fear mixed in? She said no...she was not thinking of anything in particular. This all happened in just a few seconds and during all this I was still thrusting in and out of her though not as quickly as before.

I leaned my face closer to hers and said softly, "It's OK. I don't mind. You can pretend. It is all just fantasy and play. It's exciting." I continue to thrust slowly and kissed her neck and nibred her ears. She was silent for what seemed like a long time. I was starting to get worried that I really ruined the moment and starting to lose my erection and was thinking to back away from what I just said and wave it off as a joke. But then she whispered very softly in my ear, "Fuck me, Peter." I turned instantly rock hard again. I am sure she could sense my renewed excitement because she gasped a little bit. I started to really pound away at her and penetrating really deep. She was very turned on too. She moved her hips in rhythm to maximize the power of my strokes. Her face was flushed. She was so wet. I can feel her juices on my balls. Every so often she urged me on by saying things like, "Harder Peter...I want more Peter...that feels good Peter." She always said these things more as a whisper but always used Peter's name. When she sensed that I was about to ejaculate, she grabbed my neck and pulled me close to her and said breathlessly into my ear. "I want you deep inside me Peter and fill me up with cum."

It was an amazing experience. After I emptied my load inside her she did not get up to clean herself as she usually does. We fell arelax and she just let the cum stay inside her. My cock and balls were covered with both my cum and her juices. I can only imagine some of the cum dripping out of her swollen pussy lips during the night.
sexyboygirl

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wow, that is progress!

be careful what you wish for!
mystTiger

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amazing developments... very sexy... have you talked to your wife about the session after? ... have you tried to make any more progress, for example get her to call you peter again, or discuss the 2 of you acting out a roleplay with you playing as peter meeting her on a date?... im sure that if you try to talk to her and discuss some of these things that once she can see that you are comfortable she will be more comfortable and open too... you need to make your move and let her know where you stand and how you feel... now is your opportunity! ... maybe you could even arrange to meet peter again... and bring her.. say you thought they both got on so well the last time... best of luck!!! cant wait to hear of your next development...
dcg1963

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The Plot Thickens ! That truly is a FANTASTIC development ! It's fantastic on a variety of levels...not the least of which being because you have successfully crossed a threshold with your wife. You have suggested something she would never have dared admit to you...her lust for another man....and got her to indulge her own fantasy about another man. She now knows you are fine with her fantasising about sex with another man. It's not assuming too much to think that you are now one step closer to getting her to accept the fact that you're actually comfortable with her actually having sexual relationships with other guys. I think you achieved something truly ground-breaking with her, in regards to this incident. CONGRATULATIONS !!!!

So is Peter single, or married....and is he the type of guy who would move on her, if he knew she was that hot for him. (?)

Here's hoping that Peter was hot for her too...and continues to be.

- David
C1Blue23

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I love it when my wife uses other men's names when we're doing it. Especially when it drives her intensity that much more. It'd be very hot if you taped the two of you having sex while verbally fantasizing and posted it here.
YouHerUs

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The next day I told her again how arousing it was. How great it was for her to be so aggressive. How I did not mind that she thought about other men sexually and it was exciting actually. We will see where this goes. Some role playing perhaps to get her even more comfortable thinking and talking about other men. She may become much less inhibited now.

As for Peter, he was married to a Japanese woman but then later divorced. Now married to a Vietnamese of Chinese descent. So he does have a case of Asian fever. But I really don't know him that well yet to know what he would do.

He did send me an email thanking me for dinner. I responded to him that we had a great time as well and should get together more often. I cc'd my wife on the email so now they have each other's email addresses. So see what happens.
C1Blue23

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I'll ammend that request. Even you two just talking about why she fantasized about him, what turns her on about him, what she thought about having sex with you while thinking about him, would also be very hot.
dcg1963

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The fact that you don't know Peter so well, may be a plus. He knows you enough to meet you socially like that, but not so well that he would feel weirded out if you chose to discretely hint that you'd be fine / approve of him setting up an arrangement of a sexual nature with your wife.

Alternately, because Peter himself has a case of Asian Fever, you could tell him that you know a sexy, married Asian woman (describe her characteristics....enough so he can join the dots and know its your wife...who is looking for a discrete, on-going "on the side" sexual arrangement. He might choose to take that bait himself, or, instead recommend a few like minded guys he knows, who have a similarly bad case of Asian Fever....who would be open to such an arrangement Either way, you'll get some qualified leads and good potential candidates.
Having lived in Japan for as long as he did, I'm sure he knows the whole spectrum of Foreign guy types who were over there. Hopefully he knows a few Dominant Alpha Male types, with a lust for Japanese women...who are of the same callibre as himself....as it sure sounds like your wife is hot to present herself for mounting and use by one again.

Also, if your wife wasn't aware that you had seen her dancing with that married guy on New Year's Eve, you could now revisit that...and let her know how much it turned you on, to see her obviously getting turned on and erotic, with another man.

David
YouHerUs

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Peter emailed me back with cc to my wife saying next time we have dinner, it will be his treat and he will bring his wife with him. While I would love to get a look at his wife, I am not sure where this will go. Maybe just regular friendship.
mystTiger

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even if it just become a friendship there is still a way you can use it to your advantage... the next time you meet and have dinner you know that your wife will most likely be horny after the meal.. you could use that night as an opportunity to roleplay.. you could even purchase a dildo and use it on her that night.. as she calls you peter...

i feel this must be an exciting time for you but i can understand that you still want to take things one step at a time. but any opportunity you get to discuss this topic would be great.. i agree with david that maybe you could mention how you watched her dancing and it turned you on... anyway... i wish you all the best of luck and i am looking forward to the next update... would be great to see some more pics of your wife too... even just some normal pics...
dcg1963

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Any exciting new developments come to light yet....or is your wife still sitting on the fence...as yet unready to hook up with any new guy. ???
YouHerUs

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Nothing too exciting to report though there are moments. She is more openly sexual. Dresses more revealing. Flirts a bit more even in front of me. Basically regressing to her 20s. Some role-play. But frankly not as exciting for me. Think of it this way. Is it more exciting for you to watch a woman openly masturbate in front of you or for you to watch her playing with herself when she think she is alone? I guess for me cuckolding means cheating and not just being slutty.
dcg1963

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I understand, perfectly.
dozo

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Wow. I have just joined this website. What an amazing story! Like some of you I too have a Japanese wife, and yep, she is sexy bitch. She is much younger than me. I am 42 and she only 27. We have a great relationship but she is such a sexual dynamo that I can't keep up with her. So, I have concluded that I need some assistance to keep her in line. It has been a strange journey for me. Once I let go of my jealousy and resigned myself to the fact that this girl needs a lot of large cock to stay calm, I felt very comfortable. So, joining this website and forum is the first step towards figuring out how I can get her regularly serviced without destroying our great relationship. Any ideas?
mwm

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send her to my house
Master_4_yourwife

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Have just discovered this thread and enjoyed it immensely.

Always been a fan of asian women nd been able to 'indulge' my
fantasies in the past. Being a Dominant guy I obviously enjoy
submissive women.

Here is a 'request' you may enjoy - or may not!

I love spanking women - have you ever tried to discover if she
has a submissive side to her sexuality or is she just enjoying
'cheating' and getting what she wants.

Would love to hear her being spanked by you or her bull - fancy
a challenge and working out a way to make it happen?

Great thread - hope to read a lot more - CONGRATS!
Intelligent articulate man seeks people who need to be "used, abused & humiliated!"
YouHerUs

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She is definitely submissive and enjoys some light bondage. The Japanese do have some expertise in this area. But not spanking. At least not with me or not yet.
YouHerUs

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I should mention that we did have dinner with Peter and his wife a couple of weeks ago. She is hot! Nothing came from that other than some friendly conversation. Peter is definitely into Asian women though. You can just tell. But no clear sign of what may happen going forward with him or them.

The other thing that I view as progress is that my wife is now much more open talking about her past relationships before we got married. She enjoys reminiscing and now that she knows I find those stories exciting, she sometimes makes it a part of our foreplay.
dcg1963

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Here's hoping that Peter's subtle hint of interest in Asian women, is merely the tip of the iceburg. I hope that he's a closet Asiaphile, with a burning need to acquire a no-strings-attached sexfriend type relationship with an Asian women, to satiate his lust with. Here's hoping that the temptation proves too great, and leads to Peter seducing your wife, and setting up an ongoing sexual arrangement with her. With any luck, you then may be able to discretely communicate with him, and enjoy the same interaction and feedback from him, that you got from her former.
YouHerUs

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Hello all

It has been a while since I posted an update. Did not have much to report but something recently developed that might be a hint of things to come. So I will go back to a conversation I had with Peter a couple of months back.

First of all, Peter knows my wife is attracted to him. A couple of months back, he and I had met up at a conference and were having a take afterwards. By then we had gotten to know each other better as friends and not just business associates so conversation was a bit looser then it used to be. We got to talking about our wives. I asked him how his second marriage is compared to his first. As you may recall, his first wife was Japanese and his current wife is Chinese originally from Vietnam. Of course, the conversation eventually got around to how they differ in bed. He said some things are physical. He finds the current wife to have better ass. First wife better tits. We also talked about sexual attitude. For him, his Chinese wife was more aggressive in bed. Taking charge. Knows what she wants. A loud moaner. The Japanese wife more submissive. Shyer in bed. Not as adventurous. A whimperer rather than a screamer. Very sexy and attractive in its own way but sometimes a bit frustrating as well.

I told him my theory about Japanese women playing the wife role with their husbands which may not necessarily reflect their full desires. So maybe his first wife was simply being what she was brought up to behave. He asked me about my wife and whether or not she is similar. I told him that yes, I think my wife feels a certain inhibition in her role as wife but do have greater desires. I told him that they are probably of two worlds for her and very difficult to combine.

We talked some more about this and then I took a chance. I said to him that I know my wife was attracted to him and if she had an affair with him, she would be much different in bed than with me. He just laughed and said something like "well your wife does have the tits that I miss." But then he excused himself and said he needed to get to bed for an early flight the next day. I thought that was the end of that. That conversation was never mentioned again in the past couple of months even though we talked on the phone for other things. Work-related mostly. I thought maybe I made a mistake with what I said in the first place. Or maybe he had too much to take and forgot about it all. But then last week, at the end of a phone call, he suddenly said to me..."remember that conversation we had at the hotel lounge about our wives?" I said sure. He then said something like "I have been thinking about it and well...it's interesting idea...and uh...I think it's true...but it's not like it is provable right?"

I was not really sure what part of our conversation he was referring to. By his stammering, my guess was the part about my wife being attracted to him. But I was not about to say something stupid. I also had to get to a meeting and did not have time to talk more about it. So all I was able to say was "I think we should talk about it more later on in private." So we are going to find some time next week to talk. Will be very interesting to hear what is on his mind.
mystTiger

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Hello YouHerUs... great to see you posting here again! i have missed reading about your naughty wife. i cant wait to see where this goes with peter now.. from the sound of it he probably has been fantasising about your wife in much the same way she has been fantasing about him... i imagine that he was probably referring to what you mentioned about your wife being much different in bed with him than you if she had an affair with him... saying that is not provable, right? .... in my opinion you should mention about this conversation with him to your wife, especially if he states that he is also attracted to her, this could pique her interest and depending on her reaction to the information could also give you an opportunity for you to let her know that you would be intersested in letting her be with other men... rather than directing her towards having an affair again, you could possibly get a situation whereby she openly cuckolds you.... just a thought! looking forward to your next update!!
jonathan123

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sounds like you already know what is on his mind and what he might say.I hope that it works out as i love reading your story
YouHerUs

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Had a talk with Peter. I will just give you the highlights of the conversation.

He admitted he found my wife attractive the first time he saw her. That part did not surprise me too much as my wife do tend to turn heads walking across the room. But he also said she reminded him of the little cute things Japanese women do. The demure smile and giggles. The way they hold their hands in their laps a certain way. The way they sit in their chairs. I guess I take these things for granted now and do not notice them. But he sure looked her over carefully!

When I mentioned to him a couple of months back that my wife thought him attractive and then a few minutes later on that she would be very different in bed if having an affair, he was not sure if I meant to combine those two thoughts and direct them at him. I don't remember how I worded it either so I can see where he was confused. So he figured the safe route was to laugh it off. But over the last two months, he admitted he can't help but fantasize about my wife. In hindsight, I think it was good to let him be alone with his thoughts for awhile because he is now just aching to take some action.

We talked about this for some time but to make a long story short, I suggested he ask my wife out on a date. He will call the house saying he unexpectedly will be in town for a couple of days and see if my wife and I are available for dinner. I will be conveniently out of town. We will see if my wife accepts the dinner date with him alone. I want Peter to read the signs of her attraction himself and not simply take my word for it. If she accepts the invitation, I think it will be a good first step.
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Let us know what happens, do you have a timescale?
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