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Very good advice and tips - thanks.
Peter C

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Lisaandmikey
Lisa, I'd really love to see some pics of you on here!

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Hi Lisa,
Have just researched the Russian Wrestling archive and theres no mention of a Lisa anywhere,though i have it on good authority(Joan behind the counter at the Post Offices,sister) that a certain Liatza Smolenz turned up at the caravan of Billt Smarts circus before the war looking for a job,having just defected from a Rumanian delegation researching Treacle mining in Devon.Aparrently she was a "BIG" old unit,could your memory be playing tricks on you.
Billie P



Pure fantasy or not its good stuff keep it up

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damn, did we really need that long of an explanation from Lisa and Mikey about not posting a pic? a simple no would have sufficed

The chances of getting caught by hiding in the closet are very low. Why would you think they are high? Doesn't make sense. You can even crack the closet door and make a lock so even in the remote chance that he tries to open the closet door, he can't.

Who cares about the privacy of the guy? He's fucking your wife, isn't that enough? You want to protect his privacy? Who cares? You're not video taping him, are you?

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Oh, don't take it permisterally. I love y'all's posts. They're great. That one was just a bit longwinded is all. I kind of felt like I was being talked down to....probably my insecurity. No harm intended. Probably was just disappointed that you were so clearly not going to post a picture. Believe me, I'm going to keep reading them.....they are outstanding, and well written.

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lisa and mikey,

My experience has been that it's very difficult to get a 'stud' to agree to have the husband watch. It's a common theme in fantasy but in reality, it's very difficult. It's a little less difficult to find one who will have sex with her while you're in the other room but it's still difficult.

That's the REALITY of this lifestyle and anyone who has actually done it knows this.

Permisterally, I wouldn't fool around with someone who was married if their spouse didn't consent. It says a lot about your character that you would. Swinging and cheating are two different things and I have a very low opinion of cheaters.

Also, very few hot wives want to romance other men and kiss them. It's curious that yours would especially after you say that you prefer married men so they don't get emotionally attached.

Therefore, hiding in the closet to watch is a good alternative. And by taking precautions, it's very difficult to get discovered.

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I never did it yet, but always thought it would be hot to be underneath the bed while a real man rammed my woman. I realize i could not see the action, but this would only make it hotter for me. Between hearing her cumming and watching the bedsprings get a real workout, my little dicklet would be standing at attention. Risky, yeah i guess, but really whats the worst that can happen. "Hey who the fucks under the bed?" Thats when i'd pop out and glare at my girl and shout, " I knew you were fucking around on me, bitch." Watch him run... naked. Just kidding of course, but hope you get my point. The best way is always finding bulls that are familiar with the lifestyle and enjoy it themselves. It sure beats having to be completely still for the entire experience. Another wacky but possible idea. Closed Circuit Cuckold. Do not videotape your woman's encounters, rather set a hidden camera and have it feed directly to a TV somewhere else in the house. So cuckyboy can sit back, and enjoy some popcorn, as he watches his love get banged in realtime. Just keep the volume turned down, unless you prefer surround sound.

You make some very good points, James. We don't fool around with married people who don't have consent of their spouses either. People who do REALLY give swinging and cuckolding a bad name.

Ironically, Lisa writes:

""""Sadly we live in a world populated by ridgid religious hypocrites ready to judge and condemn others while they cheat on their husbands, wives""""""

And yet, she prefers to have sex with cheating married men. Go figure, huh?

Reading over it, it just sounds like some guy writing out his fantasies. I know my wife doesn't go on dinner dates with them or make out with them, she just wants sex with them and is not interested in romance. If a cuckold sits at home while his wife is on dates, it's not going to last long, that's for sure. It's fine if they want to share their fantasies on here but it's not good for the lurkers to take their advice seriously as it's very damaging.

Lisa and Mikey, you shouldn't come here and tell people these things and then tell James to not reply to your posts and 'bye bye'. He has some very valid points. Remember, there are newbies on here and if they follow your way of doing things, it's just not practical. That's why I think it's just your fantasy.

Here's my thoughts in where you are wrong:

1. Don't fool around with cheating married men. Have some dignity and values. He's cheating and you're helping him. There are enough broken homes and manless kids out there without you helping it. And there are plenty of eligible, single men out there so you don't have to lower yourself to the level of cheating.

2. Don't give blowjobs in a parking lot of some restaurant with your top off or loose. It's illegal. If someone sees you and calls the cops, you'll both go to jail. Your reputation will be lost and his wife will have to bail him out and then file the divorce papers the next day.

3. Most hot wives don't go on dates. They are not wined and dined. That gets too emotional. Now don't get me wrong, some cucks get off on this but that's a whole different story.

4. Most hot wives don't make out or have make out sessions on their dates. Again, too emotional. (of course I know that some do and some carry on emotional relationships with their long term studs - I'm generalizing now for the newbies).

5. You also write that you go down on him and kiss him more when parked in front of your house. Again, bad move. Do you have neighbors? Then you walk him to your door holding hands. What do your neighbors say? How do you know something didn't come up and you have an unexpected visitor in your home as your walking your 'lover' up the steps holding his dick? Did you check to see if your lady in law isn't watching from the window?

You can see how your story is full of holes and bad advice.

You wrote that many people that know Lisa knows she has a relaxed attitude about marital infidelity but then wrote:

"""Still, she would be very unhappy if some day a coworker or relative emailed her a picture from the internet and asked if this was her.""""

If she's out on dates at restaurant, giving blowjobs in the parking lot, giving blowjobs in your driveway, walking hand in hand and rubbing the crotch of different men walking up to your house door, how come you're not worried that a coworker, neighbor, or relative won't see her then?


I'm not writing all this to flame you (although your attitude toward James and his valid points leaves much to be desired) but to caution anyone trying this lifestyle to take the stories and advice on here with a grain of salt.

You must take precautions to not get caught by your kids, relatives, co workers, neighbors, etc. etc. Not to mention that studs could even try to blackmail you if you try to dump them. I've seen it happen. And James is right, it's highly difficult to find studs who will perform in front of husbands. They talk the talk but then don't show up when it comes time to play.

This guy's story about having his wife run around town on dates, giving blowjobs all over the place, and going hand in hand to her own door while trying to remain discreet is just pure BS.

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He took his messages out probably because of all the things you pointed out lacuck.

I agree with you, doing this in reality is much different than in your fantasies. The very fact that she writes that she's out on a date all evening long and then takes him home for sex while the husband is waiting without calling him first or using a signal to check if the coast was clear and that there were no unexpected visitors tells me that they've never actually done it. There's too much left out.

Sure, I'd like to say 'to hell with the neighbors' but the reality of the situation is different. You don't want to be known around town as the swinging couple or the slut wife and cuckold man, do you? And if you have kids, do you want the other kids taunting your own kids? I live in L.A. too and even as open as people are here, I still keep a very low profile and am very discreet when we play. I seriously doubt this guy's wife is giving his friends blowjobs parked in a car in their driveway or in some public parking lot, especially if she says she's worried about posting her picture in case a relative or coworker found out about them.

Neighbors can be nosey and troublesome. One cuckold had to explain to his neighbors once that he and his wife did swinging once in a while after the neighbor saw his wife coming home with a younger black man late at night. The neighbor seemed fine with it until he just happened to tell the poor guy's visiting lady while having a chat over the fence one day.

Nice, huh?

Lisaandmickey, don't take it permisterally but as Red Skelton used to say, "I calls 'em as I see 'em." And your story was bad advice for newbies considering the lifestyle and how to do it. I'm not saying I'm an expert by a long shot but your way is only going to lead to trouble.

You read my mind. My wife has dropped hints to her lovers about this ("Wouldn't it be nasty if we powerd my husband to watch us?"), but they really don't want that kind of thing. They just want to fuck her. I'd bet that some would go limp with another man in the room.

"Cheating" is part of good cuckolding, and it's always by permission - tacit or otherwise. Swinging is different than cuckolding, as is the "hot wife" lifestyle. Wanting to watch your wife getting fucked is not cuckolding, per se - it's more "hot wife" or "swinging." Cuckolding, for us, is closer to: "I know she's fucking other guys, but I just can't stop licking her sweet pussy, mainly because she ties me up and makes me lick it!"

I have yet to watch my wife fucking another man, but I have considered the "closet" approach so he doesn't know, and it's just between wifey and me. Part of the excitement of cuckolding is that the guy doesn't know what she's really doing, and she keeps you in the dark enough to make you a cuckold. He thinks he's banging someone's wife on the sly, and he thinks she's thinking the same. Little does he know...

Hi R Couple,

I tend to think that the differences between cuckolding and hot wifing are subtle. A cuckold is more submissive and when the wife has sex with other men, it's part of humiliating the cuckold and punishing him. That element has to be there.

Just last night, my wife and I did the closet hiding approach and it worked fine. There's a black guy that she calls when she's horny and he comes over. So far, we've only done it about 5 times so we haven't worked up to full intercourse yet but we will.

She was wearing sexy hose and heels and panties only. This time her bra came off. He was completely naked on the bed. She squatted over his face and he ate her out from below. It was fantastic to watch. He was squeezing her tits and licking her pussy, after pushing her panties to the side.

Then, she lowered herself onto him and started kissing down his chest and stomach. She LOVES to give blowjobs and is good at it. She was putting a good 7 inches of his 9 inch cock in her mouth while massaging his upper legs and balls. She loves to suck balls too and did that to him a lot. She looked up and told him that it was ok to cum in her mouth.

After about a good 10 minute blowjob, he wanted to stand up and have her on all fours on the bed sucking him. It was a real slutty position for her She was doggy style on the bed and he was standing up and face fucking her. He held the sides of her head and pumped his hips into her.

God what a sight, I'll never forget it. My wife is very beautiful, slim, and classy. Seeing this big black stud pumping her face was wild. I was hard the whole time and I could tell that she was just loving it. She loves to swallow cum and he started moaning and cumming into her mouth, she swallowed it all.

Even after he laid down in exhaustion, she keeped kissing and taking his cock into her mouth. I could tell that she thoroughly enjoyed it.

After he left, she rinses out her mouth in the bathroom and we have this game where I put my hard cock out of the crack in the closet and she starts sucking it. Then the doors burst open and I usually jump on top of her and we fuck rough and hard, after being turned on so much by the cuckold game.

I just had a wonderful time last night. Just wonderful. I've always fantasized about the cuckold lifestyle for so many years and was scared that I would get jealous or not be able to find a partner or even be laughed at or whatever but now I'm so glad to have found my wife and that this is all such a turn on for both of us. She is just as turned on as I am. Now, when she looks for a stud, she only looks for black guys. And this is from a prim, proper, and classy white woman who had never even considered black guys before.

I met her when we were both single and on our third date she said, "I wanted to try swinging with my ex husband but he didn't want to at all. He was very much against it. "

"Do you still want to swing if you had another serious relatonship?" I asked.

"Yes, but I would probably get jealous if my man was with other women. I mean, I want to fool around but I wouldn't want him to."

I knew I was on to something right then and there ! The rest is history.

It's just a matter of time before she starts having full on intercourse while I watch and even set up a regular 'slut' night every Wednesday night.

By the way, R couple, I totally encourage you to watch. Set it up somehow. It's totally fantastic.

I talked to her the other night and she would like me to watch. But she wants me to "catch" her fucking another guy and then, in her own words: "You don't get angry and are so horny that you pull out you cock and cum all over both of us."

Wow.