You losers need to get a life.

Ah yes,,,Jesus,,,I've met him many times, he was in many guises, and he went by many names,,,each and every one of them were off their medication. The problem with Jesus was, in his day they didn't have any medication, if they did, he would've been a normal guy, and we wouldn't need so much nowadays. Timothy Leary had some pretty good visions, a bunch of people thought Jim Jones was the second coming, Rev. Moon must've missed a few appointments at the pharmacy, along with this new Mexican saviour in Miami. You know what,,,maybe it's the people that are off their medication, and all these saviours are just taking advantage of it? Then there's Mohammed,,,hmmm, I'm not sure about him, he came up with the basics for how a muslim should live, when you look at them it's kinda hard to figure out if they were the result of not taking medication,,,or taking too much, either way, the only thing you can be sure of, is as long as we keep making people,,,most of them are gonna be stupid, so you might as well take your medication and go through life grinning like an idiot.

At last we've found some common ground, my medication is "good bush" too,,,

Oops,,,you never specified physical or mental midgets,,,lets just say you meant physical, this way you won't be in danger of being mistaken, cause you know what that means,,,LOL. Besides,,,if you did mean mental, than this thread would truely have it all.

Captioned photos from American and Iraqian agencies.

Should that ever be forgotten?

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Too bad that happened. Let's see that it never happens again ...

Yes,,,that IS too bad, and hopefully in the future terrorists will develope a backbone and stop stockpiling munitions and miltants in schools, hospitals, and family neighborhoods. Unfortunately, a spine is a hard thing to find amongst people who use youngren as bomb delivery systems, while they skulk off to set in motion the deaths of more of their own unsuspecting people. If that's what you meant, then we are in agreement, we should "see that it never happens again".

Images talk by themselves, in a very eloquent way ... baby terrorists?
What to say about countries that already have hundreds (or thousands, perhaps) of nuclear devices and rockets to take them wherever they want in the planet ... besides conventional weapons, of course, which are used generously and frequently to 'prevent 'em from getting rusted' ... too bad!

These are the countries that say it's a danger that any other nation in the world should try to develop its own nuclear program. Hipocrisy?
If nuclear weapons are so dangerous, no country at all should be allowed to have them. It is only logical.

The ONLY reamister America is relatively safe and other countries hate us is because we are strong. Liberals are fucking worthless because they see Iraq as if it were Vietnam and believe the world can be made peaceful if everyone "loves one another" like the trippin hippies used to. Unfortunately haves and high hopes aren't enough to secure peace around the world. Muslims are basically the new Nazis of the world and must be dealt with. There are plenty of intelligent law abiding muslims but there are also plenty of extremists who would gladly smile at your face and then stab you in the back for not believing what they do.

name,

It really would be wonderful if we could all just hold hands and give each other flowers of peace and live happily ever after an no one would ever get *******ed again including babies during war.

So all we have to do is approach the Tailaban with flowers of peace and then we can all be friends.

You go first.

Good luck.

No,,,Baby collateral damage!!! In your typical liberal fashion, you pick and choose the terminology and pictures that suits your position, skipping over the fact that those babies are being *******ed because the cowards are hiding behind them. Permisterally, I'd love to shake hands and make nice with Osama, in fact, why don't you have him meet me tonight around 9:00pm, I'll be in the alley between the Police Sta. & the Firehouse,,,

Mr.Kalimba: your post is so accurate and rich in relevant details that I decided to save this page in my pc. I do not back any kind of terrorism, as it has been frequently suggested by M.O.M., only because i disagree with her views - but I do assume that some muslims probably act like they do in reaction for even worse things that have been done before by us (or wiht our support) against their people - what Mary says to be our 'reactions to their agressions'. We, in the occident usually do that: we blame someone, like in the fable of Aesopus, to be dirtying our water (the wolf and the lamb), so that we can have a plausible reamister for attacking them. That's how I see it ... and perhaps that's also how the East sees it. You explained a lot in a few lines. Thanks!

By the way ... who are these 'liberals' Mr.Riske and Mr.Weakwhiteboy blame some of us to be? Liberalism used to be Adam Smith's economic doctrine, as I learned it in school (free trade, free market, a.s.o.), and later on was a kind of politics that defends the rights of the richer states to dominate the world (neoliberalism). So ... what, then?

Those are the people that brought you WW I & WW II, the reamister Vietnam was left in the lurch, the reamister we're still dealing with fundamentalists in the east (Iran,,,you know, wimpy, "can't we all get along", Carter), we should have blown them away back in the `80's, judges that think young worryers need to be understood, assholes that think 12 million illegals in our country is okay, so what if they're draining our resources, "they're people",,,yet they crowd our classrooms and tax our medical system, driving our costs (the American citizens) though the ceiling. The average illegal contributes approx. $9,000.00 per year to our economy, and they take $30,000.00 in services, service that many American don't qualify for. If the not for the liberals of the world, the Taliban would never have considered attacking the US, but they relied on the Liberal French government, the silent Russians, the affraid to go military Germans, the lets see what they have to say Canadians. If they thought for one minute that those governments would've disapproved enough to raise a hand against them,,,they NEVER would've tried it. Michael Moore, Jane Fonda, Tim Robins, Sean Penn, and the list goes on,,,while these people and others like them spew their cuckolds brownie, the bad guys say "what the hell, we might be able to garner enough sympathy that we could pull this cuckolds brownie off". By all rights (and except for liberals), Jane Fonda should've been shot, period!!! Of course, liberals can always be identified by the fact that when the cuckolds brownie hits the fan, they're the ones hiding, or backpeddling, trying to re-write history,,,kinda like what you do in every response, you ignore the obvious elephant in the room and sing the party line, babies, innocents, war mongerers, etc. But you've never addressed anything I wrote directly, you've always came back same crap,,,sure, we all hate the *******ing of innocents, but you offer nothing except surrender, surrender and what? Become a muslim? Cause that's the only thing that will keep the dogs at bay. What if I don't want that? What do you suggest? That was a rhetorical question, I neither expect you to respond to that directly, or to actually have a solution, you're a fucking "liberal", your solution would obviously require my death. I can only take solace in the fact that if we ever wind up in a post apocalyptic society, the liberals will be the first to go.

Hmmm,,,You start off saying "the world view that YOU espouse",,,then switch to "WE". Everything you mentioned is true, to a degree, and every single bit of it was a result of having to go covert. Because the liberals in our government (and others at the corrupt UN), wouldn't stand for us dealing with the problems outright, yet we couldn't just let things go in the direction they were going, so yeah,,,the enemy of our enemy is our friend (Iraq vs Iran, Afghanistan vs Russia), till they're not anymore. I don't care if they're black, red, yellow, or white, anybody who gets agressive with someone else, has to be put down, if they're fanatics that will stop at nothing,,,then like I've said before, the Romans haven't been attacked by the Carthaginians for centuries,,,and if it takes carnage so the civilized world can live their life, so be it.

P.S. I almost forgot the biggie, liberals brought us the cold war, that wonderful iron curtain that subjugated millions and *******ed millions,,,if not for liberals in this country and the other Allies, we would've went right into Russia and took out Stalin, who was the model for Saddam. Czecheslavakia, Hungary, Poland, East Berlin, Romania, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, etc. Everybody who lived (and died) in those countries from the day the war was over, till the Soviet Unoin broke up (50 some odd years later), owe their experiences to "liberals". Way to go!!!

Nuclear war would have been a better option? I check this thread now and again but saying that liberals " caused the cold war " and claiming it would have been better to invade Russia... Thats ridiculous

Iraq is slowly stretching out and defeating the US military powers. Iraq is a tough cookie, being that it has been occupied for the last 4000 years and has never been truely defeted. The MIGHTY US ARMY is having some problems in Iraq, and you think Russia would have just rolled over?

I wonder how the US would have faired up agianst the USSR, after taking 300+ ICBM hits to most of the majour military and civilian centers in the continental US? It would be great to see how all the war supporters would love to get behind a military move that destroyed the whole earth, for idealism. We could see the radioactive glow all the way up in Canada!

Umm...diaper, I guess you missed the news.

The Iraqi Army surrendered and Saddam has been captured, tried, and hung by the Iraqi people. You can come up with all the liberal 'editorials' you want but it's plainly obvious that Saddam's Army surrendered and that Saddam was tried in an Iraqi court and hung. We are not at war with 'Iraq'.

In fact, the U.S. invasion and victory in Iraq was stunning and brilliant and a great show of U.S. military might and tactics. One that will be studied in military classes for many years to come. Even the usually tight-lipped British Generals admitted to be in awe of the tactics and execution used to invade Iraq so easily and swiftly.

The U.S. is now an occupying power and the newly-formed Iraqi Army and police powers are training and rebuilding to the point where they can defend themselves against the largely outside terrorists and insurgents who are attacking them.

Hell, the Iraqi Army was pissing their pants when the U.S. started coming after them. Most laid down their arms and went home, the rest were burned, shot, bombed, buried, or knifed.

Let me read your quote one last time for another laugh:




hahaha!

Even though it would still be inaccurate, you could at least not look like a nutjob and say: ""The terrorists (or insurgents) are slowly stretching out and defeating US military powers". While still inaccurate, it would at least indicate that you have small grasp on what's going on in the world around you.

No country has successfully subjugated a sovereign foreign nation in a great long time my friend. in the 20th century defeating a third world standing army is the easy part.

As for M.O.M., she has stated that she basicaly considers the rest of the world a horde not worthy of any human rights if they impede the ability of westerners to make money.
The Vietnamese won their war against the US (thanks to the liberals, lol @ that idiocy) and what exactly did they ever do to threaten America again?

*crickets*

Because the reamister for the US involving itself in Vietnam was to stop Communism from taking over the world and threatening the US, right? Yet the Vietnamese never threatened the US before or after the horrific war which *******ed millions of their people unneccessarily.

Keep on with the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" idea and see what happens. How do you think you got Al Queda.

I am not into wild ranting against anyones political ideaology but please, back up what you have to say with some historical facts and be civil. The idea of the allies rolling into Russia is laughable, not one serious historian or military tactician would have suggested that and the reamister it didnt happen has nothing to do with liberals. The Us somehow would occupy Russia..find a dictionary and look up a picture of Napoleon....then find one of Hitler...okay, yeah, thats what I thought, the last thing either of them tried to do was invade and occupy russia. I understand that M.O.M.s worldview is basically that anything and everything is justified to maintain US supremacy. I and most other people do not agree.

Al Queda can only threaten the Us to the extent that we as a nation allow them to draw us into conflicts that gain us nothing while draining away money, allies and our few remaining civil liberties. If you knew anything of guerrilla strategy the US is doing exactly what they want. Al Queda hated Saddam and now he is gone and the region is in choas. that is their goal, they hate the current leaders in the middle east....and guess what, they hate Iran too. Al Queda is not a real threat to America, only America can destroy itself.

This is the real world M.O.M., if liberals to you are people who dont agree with harboring people who blew up civilian jetliners or razing the cities and massacring all the people in countries with whom we have political disagreementst, then I dont know what to say to you. Maybe you are a facist.

As for the Taliban, you realize that it was conservatives who gave them millions of dollars only right before Sept 11th right? You realize the CIA funded the formation of Al Queda, right? You realize that their beef with us is the UNDEMOCRATIC regimes we prop up in the region, right? Just asking.

And hell yeah, I have other solutions and they sure dont involve my death. We live in a new world, and short of just indiscriminate massacres of the young and old, power is not enough to win conflicts in this era. It has been proven time and time again.

Quoting MOM: "I don't care if they're black, red, yellow, or white, anybody who gets agressive with someone else, has to be put down" ...
-> Only possible logical conclusion: The U.S. has to be put down too, if we are to follow that line of thinking.

Quoting MOM: "By all rights (and except for liberals), Jane Fonda should've been shot, period!!!" -> here she shows her homicide face.

Quoting MOM: "(...) 12 million illegals in our country is okay, so what if they're draining our resources, "they're people",,,yet they crowd our classrooms and tax our medical system, driving our costs (the American citizens) though the ceiling. The average illegal contributes approx. $9,000.00 per year to our economy, and they take $30,000.00 in services, service that many American don't qualify for." -> here, Mary shows her prejudicious face. Imigrants built that country, Mary, and the illegal ones clean your cuckolds brownie and collect your garbage, because they are given the less qualified jobs, working at very, very low salaries - often because their home-countries economies has been devastated by neoliberalism that the US espouses and imposes on others.

Quoting Mr.Riske: "In fact, the U.S. invasion and victory in Iraq was stunning and brilliant and a great show of U.S. military might and tactics. One that will be studied in military classes for many years to come. Even the usually tight-lipped British Generals admitted to be in awe of the tactics and execution used to invade Iraq so easily and swiftly." -> Yes! We may study profoundly how a country that is one hundred times bigger and stronger defeats another. Now, talking about strategy ... how about a bunch of less than 50 people putting a powerful country at fright? (That would make Osama the most important PHD in war strategy, if this is to be praised). Cowards? ... Iraqis are showing who they really are now.

p.s. Mary, do u really believe islamic countries are trying to convert us, or u're just saying that for 'rethorical' reamisters?

If you think the US is not at war with Iraq ( insurgent Iraqis...sorry ), all the power to you. You make it seem like the US is there in Iraq with blue helmets on making sure everybody plays nice.

Insurgents are attacking US powers, and the "police" that support the US powers. That is the one battle that is being fought in Iraq.

The other is between religous sides. When the US "won" the war in Iraq...removing Saddam only let the fundamentalists start fighting with each other...not to mention letting Al Quada set up shop in Iraq. Saddam may have been a bad guy, but he knew how to handle his country. Invading a islamic country and imposing " freedom " on the people will never work. The US has only created whole bunch more enemies now... pissed off 20 year olds ready to strap bombs to their bodies because some US soildier *******ed their whole family tossing a grenade into a building in a country that he should have never been in, in the first place.

Blowing up a country with video games, then passing the buck to poorly trained Iraqi " police powers" to keep the peace after setting up a oil freindly mickey mouse goverment to suit oil consuption is the definition of winning the war, then way to go!

The US military will be training people for the next 10 years? 20 years? to clean up a civil war they created. Its better PR anyways, to have Iraqis dieing daily, rather than US "boys" coming home dead.

Saddam wasnt so far from the truth when he said the US is entering another Vietnam war by going into Iraq. The UN said the same thing, and that invading Iraq would only cause Iraq to spiral out of control and cause hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths. Boy were they wrong!

If you follow history, Iraq has been bathed in civil war for thousands of years...so to say that Iraq was invaded so eaily and swiftly...why is the US still there? When were they leaving again? Last June? Or the June before that? I keep forgetting. Those damn Iraqi police need to get cracking...holding up the US troops coming home.

The US military is stretched thin, thats why North Korea, Iran and whatever other county that is on the hit list has yet to to be challenged. Thats why the top generals in Iraq are BEGGING for more support, but the goverment is playing constant catch up for them. North Korea actually HAS WMD's but invading that country might prove more difficult than Iraq, being it has the 5th largest military power in the world...not to mention theres nothing in it for the US, invading North Korea. No oil, no natrual resources.

Maybe the US could train a bunch of South Koreans to do the dirty work?

Same goes for Iran...but then again, thats what the newly formed Iraqi army will be trained for...to fight Iran...after all, thats how Saddam got all his nasty stuff and funding in the first place. So maybe in 100 years, Iraq will have yet ANOTHER dictator to deal with that was set up by the US in the first place to serve its economic needs. Fun times.

War, peacekeeping, occupying power, call it whatever you want. The US will be there for years...just long enough to make sure the oil flows, or to get those winning votes. Dead women and youngren so you can keep on driving your huge trucks to the mall to buy "Support our troops" stickers and flags. Its all about money kids.

Also, why do post that support the movment in Iraq always have such respect for forms of violence and military use of power? Those are PEOPLE you are talking about, not pixelated pictures on fox news...



KNIFED...AWESOME MAN! I <3 knifes and guns and secret undercover things blowing up cars with rocket propelled missle death stars! wooooooooo hooooooo USA! USA!

=> "Also, why do post that support the movment in Iraq always have such respect for forms of violence and military use of power? Those are PEOPLE you are talking about, not pixelated pictures on fox news..." <=

When the jewish people were being smashed in Europe, some famous jewish writer wrote very touching lines about the human condition of his people, who were made of the same stuff inside as any other people of other ethnicities. "do we not red, do we not cry" ... and the stuff. It is a pity that one half of israelis have forgotten this. It is a shame that half of America, that was a real homeland for wandering jews, has forgotten that too.

Learning how to use 'quote' feature. lol
sorry, mr.diaperedcuckold. very well-said.

Sorry dude,,,the members of my family that fought (and some died), defending this country go back to WW I, they fought in WW II, Korea, and Nam. Judging from your statement, you somehow felt you needed to respond, unfortunately you said nothing of any consequence. Like all the other liberals out there, you attacked without having anything to say. You stated the obvious, Rome was strong,,,my point was Carthage was a thorn in it's side,,,America is strong, Islamic fundamentalists are our thorns,,,the only way to stop the pain is to remove the thorn.

And yet again we hear from someone who can't read, has a 30% comprehension, is following the liberal party line, ir is just plain stupid. My statement was we should have continued on to Russia,,,that would have been long before Russia had the bomb, so the destruction of the world wouldn't have been an issue now would it. Try to get it through your thick skull, we don't attack countries that have resources the world needs, we protect them from people that want to use them as a stranglehold on the civilized nations,,,those are the countries we attack, and deservedly so. If they want their babies safe, then stop hiding behind them, try getting a job and be a contributor to society,,,how do they support their families if they're so busy planning attacks,,,oh, that's right, they use their families as delivery devices, no point wasting food, shelter, and clothing on them. If they don't give a cuckolds brownie, and they want to ******* me and mine, why should I care about them?