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cuckcop
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# Posted: 20 Jul 2007 04:13:34
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I have a situation I hope you ladies can advise me on. My ex-wife began cheating on me after 7 years of marriage, long story short I convinced her to try a cuckold relationship. It was fine for a short time, but she ultimatly divorced me and left me for one of her lovers.
Fast forward to present day- she called me several hours ago to tell me that she is pregnant by her lover, and he is kicking her out of the house. She has no family in the area and no where to go. I invited her to come over to my house with myself and our daughter. She is well aware that I still love her and wan't her back.
My question is do you all think there is a chance to salvage a relationship? And if so, what kind? Obviously by being on here you know I desire a cuckold relationship. However she belives I only suggested it as a last ditch effort to save our marriage. How do I convince her in a loving and non-judgemental way to try to get back together? Do I approach the subject of cuckolding or just leave it alone?
Also, for those of you who are wondering, her lover is a dark skined Pakastani and we are both white so there is no chance anyone will belive the baby is mine.
Thanks for any advice you can give.
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jamesriske
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# Posted: 20 Jul 2007 04:39:52 · Edited by: jamesriske
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Why would you ask advice from a woman about how to handle a woman? Big mistake that men do. Women really don't know what they want, they say they want a 'nice guy' but end up with the bad boys and shitting all over the nice guys.
In a nutshell: You're a whimp. Dump the lying cheating bitch to the curb.
After she cheated on you the first time, you should have walked out the door. But no, you took her back and turned it into a cuckold relationship, then you found out the hard way that a cuckoldress and cheater are NOT the same. (I don't give a damn what the dictionary says). You can't turn a cheater into a swinging, cuckoldress partner. (now, I know that there are some legitimate cases where this was done successfully and two of them are on this forum BUT, they would even agree that it's very rare. Usually, cheaters never change)
As as usual, she took off on you. Since you took her back after catching her cheating, she lost all respect for you because you are wimp and of course, she ''fell in love'' with the other guy and dropped your ass and took off on her daughter too. (lovely woman, huh?) And now she's getting kicked out the house by her new, shack-up loser. Well, I've got news for you: she was probably cheating on him too and he caught her at it. Remember, you're only hearing one side of the story so you don't know what is going on.
So you're going to take her back? What a wimp. What a jerk. As if you didn't learn the first two times. Jesus! And all of this in front of your DAUGHTER!?
My God, grow a backbone, stand up for yourself, tell the bitch to hit the curb.
She has no place to go? Tell her to get a job like everyone else or if she's too pregnant, go on welfare. It's not your problem. She's pregnant with the other guy's baby and he's kicking her out? Some partner she chooses over you, huh?
My God, it's hard to believe that there are men out there as wimpy as you are, just unbelievable. And if that's not enough, you're doing all this in front of your daughter.
Be a man for Christ's sake and stand up for yourself and get your own life in order. Raise your daughter in a stable household. And then go out and find an HONEST woman with INTEGRITY who would never lie or cheat on you but who is open minded to some mutual swinging/cuckold games on the side. Be the same to her, treat her well and be honest with her and the two of you will have a great relationship.
You will be MUCH happier and hopefully your daughter won't grow up with some fucked-up idea of what a man is and how she should treat them.
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cuckcop
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# Posted: 20 Jul 2007 04:57:38
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Thanks for the advice jamesriske, though it's tough to hear. I may end up doing that, but my heads not in that place yet. You say I'm a wimp, though I don't think of myself that way, but after all I am a willing cuckold.
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joranc
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# Posted: 20 Jul 2007 08:47:37
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if you are a willing cuck, you really have no choice. you dont call these shots.
you welcome her home , hang your head in shame and let her know all the while she was doing th right thing(what she thought was anyways) let her know your love is always unconditional.
the baby will b to a man she loved,( any child would want that),,,how would she deal with it other wise(wife) things just didnt work between them ,...hey,..shit happens
your daughter should know if her father and mother are ok,(any child would want that)
.....but does you ex stil actually love you ....if not
i agree with mr riske
care 4 kids but .......................dump the skank
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joranc
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# Posted: 20 Jul 2007 08:52:05
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Quoting: jamesriske Why would you ask advice from a woman about how to handle a woman? Big mistake that men do. Women really don't know what they want, they say they want a 'nice guy' but end up with the bad boys and shitting all over the nice guys.
this part i fully agree with to the full extent of the lawcuckcop
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cuckcop
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# Posted: 20 Jul 2007 13:58:21
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Jamesriske is right about that, no doubt about it.
As to whether she still loves me, that remains to be seen. The ironic thing is, I encouraged her to have sex with the man who got her pregnant because I was afraid she was getting to close to a previous lover and would leave me for him!
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cuckcop
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# Posted: 22 Jul 2007 04:49:53
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423 views and no advice from the ladies? This is the Cuckoldreses forum, right?
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newdom
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# Posted: 23 Jul 2007 12:34:58
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I agree with Jamesriske. I am a woman, I have cucked my hubby and we are madly in love. We follow each others rules to the letter. I never have a man without my hubby approving first and even being in on it, watching and once in a while participating. So what she did to you is outright CHEATING. Which means it wasn't done with love like cuckolding. Cheating is a selfish act and it hurts other people. Now I am not worried about you being hurt because you are a big boy and will deal with it whatever way you deem proper. But your child is a different story. Don't be an asshole and take her back and prove to your daughter men deserve to be used when you need it. I have a daughter also and she only sees the loving, caring mother and father raising her. She sees we love each other beyond words. She sees we respect each other and always are communicating especially if there is a problem. She is being taught to talk things out calmly, listen to the others point of view and WORK HARD for what you want if the other person is also working hard on it. There has to be trust to do all this and you cannot trust your (ex)wife. She WILL do it again....and again....and again. And the daughter will see this over and over again and develop her own ideas of how relationships work and it will be a terrible lopsided take on relationships. Don't screw up a young mind for a cheating bitch. Teach your daughter love, trust, happiness and wish for her to grow up to someday be a loving wife/cuckoldress to a wonderful submissive man. So that's a womans point of view. Hope you all agree.
Karen
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dorcsssc
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# Posted: 24 Jul 2007 07:23:40
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I agree with newdom: it's really not a sexual lifestyle issue: it's an INTEGRITY and LOYALTY issue. Doesn't sound like she has much of either. And you have a responsibility to your daughter, by way of example, to show her things you do and do not approve of (unless you want her to turn out the same way?). You don't really have a genuine reconciliation on your hands, do you? Just a renewal of the same half-hearted cohabitation-of-convenience you might have had before.
And you didn't even begin talking about why she was being kicked out of where she was. People don't do that kind of thing because the weather changes, ya' know.
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jamesriske
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# Posted: 24 Jul 2007 07:44:22
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Hey!
He has a DAUGHTER! Hello! Did you assholes miss that part?
The daughter comes FIRST. Got it? Kids come first. You do what is in the best interest of your kid and then worry about your sex games and relationship bullshit later.
I can't believe that none you answering this guy considered that first.
I don't give a shit if you hate my guts on here or what advice you give this guy AFTER the needs of the daughter are met but we should all agree that providing a safe home and normal home for his kid comes first.
What the hell is wrong with people nowadays?
Raising your children is your number one priority, got it?
If the mom is screwed up and the daughter is living with you, then you must step up to the plate and provide a good, stable home for your kid.
After she's grown up and off to college and you've provided a way for her to pay for college, THEN you can fuck up your house and life all you want.
I have two kids. Two daughters. One of my own and one a step daughter. My wife and I NEVER expose them at all to our games at all. Not even close. Raising our kids is number one around here.
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cuckcop
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2007 04:07:34
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NewDom, Dorcssc, and Jamesriske again, thanks for giving me your views. As I've had more time to think about it I'm coming around to your viewpoints, so I appriciate what you all are saying. Just so you know, our daughter is not aware of what goes on in our private life anymore then I guess Your children are. But as you're all saying in one way or another, cheating is different from cuckolding the way we understand it on this site. I had hoped that getting together again and providing a home with mom and dad would be a positive thing for my daughter- but if it's just home for a while untill she leaves for the next guy she falls in "love" with, that would do more harm than good and would not teach her how to live in a stable relationship
Dorcssc, she got kicked out because she got pregnant. As Jamesriske said in his first post many woman go for the bad boys not the nice guys. I had hoped that her having a marriage with a nice guy and sex with the bad boys would be a good compromise, but it seems like that may be a pipe dream.
Thanks again guys.
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jamesriske
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2007 06:29:47 · Edited by: jamesriske
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I don't mean to jump your shit on here or the other people who responded as they agree with me.
It just pisses me off to see people confuse fantasy play with real life and let that fantasy sex fun screw up their real life.
Your daughter would be exposed to this if you let the cheating mom move back in with you. She knows her mother got a new boyfriend, she can figure out that she was having an affair on you, and then she would see you allow her to move back in. Get it? She would start to think that this was acceptable behavior.
Wrong.
Cheating is not cuckolding. Cheating is not cuckolding.
Repeat after me.
Stand up for yourself and your daughter and kick her cheating, lying ass to the curb.
Trust me. Once you do that and then focus on finding an honest woman to be your partner who loves and respects you as much as you do to her, you'll be much happier.
I'm glad that Karen posted her to give the woman's point of view. It's universal. Cheaters are scumbags no matter what gender. Kick them to the curb.
Your number one focus right now should be raising your daughter in a safe, sane, and loving household and to maintain that until she's grown and gone. After that, you can move in as many cheating skank whores as you want, I don't care.
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joranc
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2007 07:12:18
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Quoting: joranc love is always unconditional. the baby will b to a man she loved,( any child would want that),,,how would she deal with it other wise(wife) things just didnt work between them ,...hey,..shit happens your daughter should know if her father and mother are ok,(any child would want that)
what ever hapns
children need to know that their parents do have a respect for each other.
the mother will always be the mother and she will always be loved,
if this is a sincere posting i am sure there is a whole lot more involved , and i am trusting you are sensible enough to not let many things on this site have too much impact on your personal circumstance.
( using mr as a term of respect)
mr riske, in real life...when the shit hits the fan, logic and reasoning play little part .
i thought you of all people would understand that.
most of what you say is tru, as usual. but i must add
children can do with out , thinking or knowing their mother is a ho.
there are many ways to respectably 'step up to the plate'
life gives many opoprtunities.
(apolgies for cnstnt spillong ererses, the more i edit ,the less i care,but you shoud c my hand writing; it makes a dr's script look like caligraphy)
ps my initial rply was actually what my wife said, i just typed it down....
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Mistress_Lynn
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2007 08:43:50
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after reading through all of this i would have to agree with most....altho it is NOT nice to hear, your wife has now called on you because she knows she CAN and thats the only reason...well that and she apparently has nowhere to go and whos freakin fault is that??? ...now if she fell out of love with you or didnt love you enough to stay with you the first time what makes you think that because she is pregnant (with another mans baby i might add) things have changed now?? she is looking for a roof over her head....now i really dont know all of the circumstances and you can do whatever you choose to but when all is said and done your little girl will thank you in the future for not exposing her to all of that crap again....make no mistake it will happen again...once a lying cheater always a lying cheater!!!
As a woman i CAN tell you that being a wife and mother are and SHOULD be kept seperate from being a cuckoldress and what i mean is ....I Love My Husband beyond words AND my children....THEY come FIRST....the bedroom comes after they are taken care of....
Ya might still love her but whether your IN Love with her is quite another thing and until you find that and find the one you can trust completely i would hold off on the cuckolding!!! i wish you the best and good luck to you and your little girl!!!
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joranc
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2007 17:44:36
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Quoting: cuckcop My question is do you all think there is a chance to salvage a relationship? And if so, what kind?
i stand by what i say
you are both tied together for the life of your children.
get it together
i was apart from my wife for nearly 2 yrs 12 yrs ago
love does wither if left un tenderd, but it never dies, with nourishment and appropriate care it can bloom again...
what messiage does this give to said daughter.....
love and forgiveness....the understanding of clemency is a wealthy attribute to have.
****The ironic thing is, I encouraged her to have sex with the man who got her pregnant because I was afraid she was getting to close to a previous lover and would leave me for him! ****
wkae up and smell the coffe flowers
become the real man that no one can compare to
maybecuckcop you need to put this fantasy aside as has been stated already
and maybe you need to learn with your wife not to run blindly into certain death
as a man and a father of one preciouse remaining child i can tell you this
as a woman i can tell you nothing as i am not one of these
i am however the perfect judger of others and master of hypocracy
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joranc
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2007 17:46:39
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i would never ever give up on my wife
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cuckcop
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2007 03:53:23
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Thank you Mistress Lynn and Joranc. Your advice is really very helpful, as has been everybodies.
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bullfluffnswallow
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2007 04:35:00 · Edited by: bullfluffnswallow
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Quoting: cuckcop 25 # Posted: 28 Jul 2007 03:53:23 Reply Quote Thank you Mistress Lynn and Joranc. Your advice is really very helpful, as has been everybodies.
I hope there is not a "however" after that statement! I can see nothing good coming from her moving back into your household! She still is your daughters mother though, so civil support and encouragement, WITHOUT being a doormat would be advised. good luck...please keep us up to date.
SISSY BITCH...single,cuz not man enuf to attract a woman.
Will meet for sissy sex with yor cuck!!
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Grexx
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2007 10:01:55
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You will find that women like men who are pretty much dicks but seem to have an elusive "softer" side. I have been an asshole to them since I was 19 and have had great luck since.
Oh and don't really have a softer side . . . just pretend to have one.
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redimac
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2007 12:55:48
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Forget her, she's a pack of trouble. Even if it worked for you at first, given her core values, you'll ultimately see a replay.
And...hanging together for the sake of a child is heartbreaking for all in the long run.
Joe Preston
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