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Anyone want to talk I need help trying to start. Not sure what to do I recently came out to her and she fought and refused but we keep talking about it one way or another and she keeps telling me now about her interactions with men...

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No wife will fuck others before her time. If she has been brought up believing that the only proper behavior of a married couple is one of monogamy, she will need a lot of time and reassurance that it is ok to enjoy sex with others. I'm sure you have read all the post of others recommending various procedures to get her to relax and enjoy it. The first hurtle is convincing her that it is something that other married couples enjoy and that it will in no way reduce the love between you two. With that said try roll playing while you are having sex. Have her pretend you are someone famous she finds attractive and have her vocalize it. Have her call you by the fantasy guys name. Buy a vibrator and give it a name. When playing with it and her use it's name as if it was another person. For example while you are sliding the dildo in & out of her say things like, "while Larry fucks your pussy I'm going to suck your nipples". Then of course after you fuck her you must slide down her sexy sweaty body and tell her that it is now your pleasure the clean Larry's cum from her cunt. When she becomes comfortable roll playing then you can push her limits a little farther.

Thank you I appreciate the advice that is all I have gotten so far. I'm very overwhelmed with my feelings and I think you are right that there is hope but I need to take my time with it. The seed has been planted, she knows that I want her to be free to have a bf and/or fuck other men. She lets me show her naked body off online she even does it herself sometimes even on cam. She even had a cam on cam session with some guy and told me all about it.

Lately she has gotten back together with some old friends and going out with them, I have a broken leg right now so I haven't been going out and every time she comes home I ask her if she has been hit on and she says stuff like 'of course!' Or 'you have no idea' and then we talk about what they said and how many there are. She always mentions two guys in particular one that is younger and says sexually inappropriate things to her in front of people and another that she claims to not like the personality of but says he is really cute and has a hot body

I've been pushing too much still and we argue again and she refused to have a relationship with anyone or even flash them but the way she responds sometimes makes me think she is considering it

As for doing those things to her I have a long ways to go there too I guess, I'm not very comfortable with cleaning up after myself although I've done it a few times and she seems to enjoy it , I did lick her like she was a queen and tried to convince her to use me whenever she likes but she has been not so kinky lately

If anyone like to talk and learn more to help me better I would appreciate it.

I'll keep this thread updated when there's more

I would also suggest you think ahead to the day she comes home and tells you that she has been fucked by another guy and that it was really good, perhaps better than she expected. Could you really cope with that, would it turn you on or make you angry because how you react when faced with the reality of being a cuckold will make a big difference to your future together. Is this a fantasy, do you really want it to become reality?

A broken leg is the perfect excuse to clean her. Tell her how horny you are and have her mount you cowboy style. The whole time she is riding you talk about her friends. Tell her that you bet she wishes it was those two guys fucking her and not you. Take a small vibrator and slide it up her ass and tell her to pretend those two are DP'ing her. By the way when you feel the vibrations on your dick through her membrane you won't be able to hold back your nut. So as you do plant that wad as deep in her pussy as possible. Then tell her that you're so sorry for not getting her off first. Put pressure on the vibrator in her ass pulling her up your body till her cum covered cooter is available for some tongue action. She should get off relatively quickly this way. As you are cleaning her to orgasm keep talking about her fucking those other two guys. Slip in the phrase of how good she taste with their cum leaking from her cunt. After you get her off and the two of you are enjoying the orgasmic afterglow tell her that you had a really great time fantasying she had sex with others. Then reassure her that you would not only be ok with it happening just once to see if the actual event was as good as the fantasy but that you wanted for her to do it at least once. Then if the both of you enjoy the ménage keep doing it. If either one of you isn't quite sure that you throughly enjoy it then you need to do it again just to make sure that you didn't like. Then is after a couple times it still isn't pleasant to either of you don't do it any more.

It would suck to lose her because she falls in love with someone else but most of all I just want her to be happy. I think a good test if you really want something and not just your dick wanting something is thinking about it right after you cum. I have trouble wanting to clean after I cum but at the same time I have no trouble thinking about her fucking another man.

Is it normal for there to be an expectancy of emotions between her and whoever she is dating?

I love the Idea of cleaning up after someone else, and either with that it after myself it's a lot better and easier if I'm ******, ... I see a lot of people have similar troubles at first. Is it perfectly normal to have to put effort into getting used to it? I'm sure every relationship is different but how often would a typical cuck clean up after himself?

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My wife has always been able to separate her feelings for men and sex. She can have sex with any guy she wants and not need any emotional attachment to do so. She's had sex with so many men so many times it's ridiculous to even try and figure the numbers, but it's thousands of both.

I've been eating my cum and cum from others out of my girlfriends since I was 19. I never really gave it much thought at first, and my very promiscuous girlfriend at the time had me eating her cum-filled pussy two or three times a night. As far as I knew, every guy did it. I started hearing from friends that they didn't eat girls at all if other cocks had been in them. I started to think I might be doing something wrong, even though I found I really loved eating cum-filled pussy. Eventually I figured out it was OK to do, and there were lots of other men that also loved doing clean up. I especially liked it when it was another man's cum I was eating, although those occasions are fairly rare. For me, there's nothing hotter than going down on a woman and tasting cum in her, knowing she's just been fucked by another man.

I clean up after myself every chance I get, which for the last few years isn't often. My wife lets me have "sex" about once every 8 to 10 months without actual penetration. We have what I call outercourse(I don't even remember the last time i actually penetrated her), where she holds my cock so I can't get inside her, and has me fuck her hand until I cum while only letting the tip touch her inner lips without any real penetration. All my cum ends up on her pussy, not inside it. I never last more than a few seconds, after which I clean her to orgasm. She always has her strongest orgasms when I'm cleaning her. She'll lay with her legs spread and give me the "You know what to do" look as I get in position to start sucking. I don't even think about it any more. I know I'm going to clean semen from her as a regular part of our routine, and I consider it totally normal.
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still not much progress ( i get it, these things take time) but she continues to tell me about guys flirting with her - without me even asking. i also proposed the idea of us role playing with my pretending to be someone else and she seemed open to it.

she has been dressing more slutty lately - short shorts... see through blouse... she has nice features if u seen her pics u know what i mean

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The roleplaying will help.
But,
Being supportive when she tells you about the other men who approach her, is better.
Every time a man approaches her, you should celebrate! This will show her that other men looking at her
is something you both enjoy. Ask her about the positives of this man, etc.
This will lead her to do more.
If you watch porn movies together- always compliment the woman- NEVER insult her! Your wife needs to admire
her. Your wife should never think that you are upset by her. In time, your wife will become your personal
"porn star"- which we all want.

This is a very good start, she's obviously happy to fantasise about the various possibilities, but don't push her too much, these things always take time, but the rewards make it all worth while!

Try to get her involved in some adult chat rooms with cam capabilities. I'm sure you can find one with some naked guy jacking off. Have her strike up a conversation with the guy. Then later when you are fucking her mention the guy in the chat room and role play like he had just fucked her or he is in the bedroom with you.

thats an interesting idea. she has been surprisingly comfy with cam stuff so far... i think she has an exhibitionist side to her, somewhat confirmed by the revealing attire she sometimes wears. we started off going on cam together and then it progressed into her going on cam often by herself. i'm not sure if she does it by herself or just when i'm watching but its incredibly excited watching hundreds of men watch her show her titts pussy and ass for them as they sit there jerking their hard cocks, using her for their pleasure. i never confessed my desire for her to be with someone else until we reached that point. it seemed like a good way to ease into the topic. she has been reluctant to watch other cams except she has confessed to watching some guys jerk off for her while she is on cam showing off to everyone. she had lots of private conversations with people watching her naked that i didnt know the substance of, including the few that she watched.

i'm not sure what is worse, like a flat out "no" or this in-between stuff because i get tempted a lot of with the possibility that she will go all the way but it never happens so its like a tease but i suppose with most other teases its better than nothing! lately i've been softly suggesting she try at least flashing someone in real life - you would think that wouldnt be too much considering thousands of men have seen her naked by now!

lol at thousands of men seen her naked.

We too found that camming was a fun and safe way to play with others. There is something about being naked but with anonymity that allows women to relax I think. Anyway as you & her continue to chat/cam I'm sure that there will be a few that are semi-local in which become regulars. As time passes and she has performed for them multiple times I'm sure her barrier will erode. At that point she should either "accidentally" or as a preplanned meet him somewhere. I did something like that one time. I told a guy we use to cam with when we would be visiting the town he lived in. We then agreed that we would "accidentally" be having dinner at the same restaurant. Knowing that there is alway a wait for tables we went first and ordered a table, directly after that he walked up to get a table also. While standing around waiting we recognized each other and started talking. When we were called for our table we invited him to join us. The rest as they say is history. Point is that my wife wasn't put in a pressure situation with someone she had never seen or knew before. She also didn't feel like she was solely on a fuck date.

So yes keep encouraging her to cam and then I'm sure an opportunity will arise to carry things to the next higher level. Oh yeah one other thing, when we were camming with this guy it was more that just nude typing. We actually fucked each other with others watching. This guy was one of the regulars in the chat room that we actually had conversations with and the wife seemed to enjoy chatting with him the most. He was also married but his wife was more prudish and didn't join in much to my disappoint.