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fractious

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#1 Posted: 25 Feb 2012 20:07 · Edited by: fractious
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Hi Gang,

So I've been a member of the site for a while now... Been trying to get my wife of 9 years to cuckold me for years now. Getting pretty tired of having no success. So looking for some help, I came across this website that is selling a cuckold coaching guide. Anyone ever read it? The hyperlink is visible to registered members only! If so, can you provide some feedback as to whether it's worth the dough? Thanks.
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#2 Posted: 25 Feb 2012 20:26
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A few months ago I looked into cuckold coach doing some research and from what I can tell, you can probably get most of the info elsewhere for free. In my opinion as with most things, there are those that put info out there because they are excited about it and want to share the info and then there are those that see everything as an opportunity to make money. I understand we all need to make money to live but to me those that choose to do so in the for profit self-help field by preying on people's self-doubt are a lowly bunch. So, I ultimately decided not to plop down the money.

I've recently found some success reading the post on this website titled Subconscious Stimulation. It's all free and things seem to be headed in the right direction. The first post is a .pdf that was pulled from a collection on another website. There are numerous accounts from people on there that have had no success until they started trying the Loving Whisper methods described in the thread. Read the pdf first and then start reading the posts on this website. I love it and I have seen clearly observable changes in my wife since starting a few weeks ago.
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#3 Posted: 25 Feb 2012 20:33
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I'd like to amend my statement about those in the self help field making money. I do not think psychiatrists and psychologists are all a "lowly bunch". I do believe the vast majority do great good to those that use their services. People very close to me have used such practitioners with great success. I'd like to limit my disdain to those that hock their books, CD's etc, like used cars salesmen trying to get you to feel like their product is the answer to all of your problems. That was the feeling I got when looking into cuckold coach.
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fractious

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#4 Posted: 25 Feb 2012 22:28 · Edited by: fractious
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Fender,

Thanks for your input.

I decided to say the hell with it and buy the freakin guide. I actually paid with a gift card someone gave me for a holiday. Now that's what I call good use of money! Browsing over it quickly, looks pretty good. Will post review about it in a few days.

Sitting thinking I hope this helps me get the show on the road! For the meantime, back to YouCuck!
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#5 Posted: 26 Feb 2012 03:52
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I'll second what Fender said and also say that hope you have success with the guide and just give this a thought that it's equally valid to give both a go so if you'd like to come and join. Now not just a successful method that's been used by a large number of people on a number of forums prior and is now building a reputation of success where as the PDF will tell you if you should care to read it - http://www.cuckoldplace.com/10_77714_1.html and my signature refers.

Remember that the thread and PDF shown on here is entirely free along with asking for help and advice.

So what has anyone got to lose if they try the cuckold guide on the link you show for a price and give Loving Whispers on the other thread for free a go because you will all be very welcome and because it would be nice for you perhaps even bring some new knowledge to bare from what else you learn.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pyayecsve06192n/nwo_3tc_loving_whispers.pdf
fractious

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#6 Posted: 26 Feb 2012 14:21
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Well I dove into the guide a bit last night... Pretty freakin interesting if I must say so myself. I had a few beers before I starting reading, so it wasn't a long study session -- I was sort of skipping around.

I woke up thinking this morning about how people are writing books about this lifestyle. That's pretty amazing. It's almost like it's going mainstream in a way.

Anyway, I going to try and read a lot of it today and then I hope to start applying some of the techniques this week. The challenge technique is pretty interesting. Not sure if I'm brave to skip right to that part though.

The whole books seems to be about psychologically messing with your partners head so that she'll cuckold you. Really quite cleaver. Sort of like the thread you posted but not really.
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#7 Posted: 26 Feb 2012 17:59
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so tell us what its all about....
the reviews you find online are just advertising and i am afraid that this thread goes the same direction.
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#8 Posted: 27 Feb 2012 14:01
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Yeh come on fractious you got us interested now wetting our appetite like this....
http://www.cuckoldplace.com/10_77714_1.html
fractious

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#9 Posted: 28 Feb 2012 01:14
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Guys, going to start the serious reading tonight. By later this week, I'll chronicle some of the ideas provided by the guide and the implementation of those ideas in my own situation. If you have any questions, shoot and I'll try to answer them.
hephaestus

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#10 Posted: 28 Feb 2012 01:27 · Edited by: hephaestus
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fractious:
Anyway, I going to try and read a lot of it today and then I hope to start applying some of the techniques this week. The challenge technique is pretty interesting. Not sure if I'm brave to skip right to that part though.

The whole books seems to be about psychologically messing with your partners head so that she'll cuckold you. Really quite cleaver. Sort of like the thread you posted but not really.

I bet I know the exact principle he is applying in the PDF you mention and it will be based around NLP. He will be working some of the NLP seduction techniques that have been around for a good few years and I believe were in the make up of Kingbulls own cuckolding guide - if not in fact the same. Interestingly I can't find any suggestion on the Ad of the information being copyrighted which suggests my NLP assessment would be correct as this would be piggybacking off the techniques already around for seduction.
If these guys have reworked NLP seduction for cuckolding good for them and offers a further arm to aid change in our wives.

As to saying its like SWH's thread but not really your correct because the techniques suggested through NLP are all used when the 'subject' is awake and with the Loving Whispers freely available on this forum it is done whilst our good ladies relax.

Another factor I find interesting is the link you show has a link at the bottom of the page offering affiliates as a means of propagating itself by offering those who buy the PDF the possibility of recouping some money back by advertising and linking to unique ID site pay facilities.
Cuckold guide site also suggests a 'no quibble, moneyback guarantee' when you click the Offsite clickbank secure order and read the clicksite terms and conditions this 60 day money back guarantee doesn't describe it as a 'no quibble moneyback guarantee' that Kole Raymonds site suggests and also warns anyone against following any other guarantee than its own in its own terms and conditions which states that the 'refund policy' is at the discretion of the clicksite operators and will only happen if it can be justified.

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I’d certainly be interested to see what you offer up here for our viewing in us making informed decisions.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pyayecsve06192n/nwo_3tc_loving_whispers.pdf
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#11 Posted: 28 Feb 2012 05:35
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I never knew I wanted to be a cuckold, until my wife told me I would make a great one! So, I guess I've had it easy compared to most; an extremely alpha-wife to put me in my place.
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#12 Posted: 29 Feb 2012 07:08
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Since the thread started with plugging a cuckold guide might as well plug the guide hubby and i put together. It is really though out over 10,000 words and we have recived testimonials from many men that it helped them out.

Nothing is 100 percent or fool proof but for $3.49 it is worth a look.

The hyperlink is visible to registered members only!

It can be read on a kindle, kindle app for your phone, or you can download a kindle to your desktop for free. And its on amazon so you do not have to worry about privacy or security.

We think our guide is a great tool. Hubby used most of the methods on me to get me to cuck him and I put a woman's touch where it needed to be.

Check out our cover if nothing its pretty sexy.
slemx

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#13 Posted: 29 Feb 2012 17:40
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Very interesting, okhotwife.

Here another similar guide: The hyperlink is visible to registered members only!

There are more similar titles (guides and cuckold tales). Is clear that the cuckold phenomenon is becoming increasingly popular.
It's obvious that English is not my native language. Sorry for any inconvenience. My blog (spanish): http://keratafilia.blogspot.com
hephaestus

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#14 Posted: 1 Mar 2012 01:05
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One book I want to get hold of but still balking over price is 'Insatiable Wives, women who stray and the men that love them' written by a psychologist.

If anyone has in digital format I'd be interested for a PM
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slemx

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#15 Posted: 1 Mar 2012 15:51
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Here another guide: The hyperlink is visible to registered members only!


It's obvious that English is not my native language. Sorry for any inconvenience. My blog (spanish): http://keratafilia.blogspot.com
fractious

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#16 Posted: 5 Mar 2012 01:24 · Edited by: fractious
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So guys... A week has gone by, I've been reading the ebook (The one in my first post on this thread, not the others mentioned). So far it's been pretty good, I'm finding the information useful.

The first 4 chapters are all about Cuckolds -- The authors story, intro to the lifestyle, why woman cuckold, why men desire to be cuckold'ed, why bulls like banging other men's wives. Chapters 5-7 then talks about types of cuckolds, misconceptions of the lifestyle, and intro to techniques. Chapter 8-10 deals with permisterality types, the challenge technique, and submissive body language. Finally, chapters 11 and 12 deal with confessing your cuckold desires to your girl, and general guidelines for good cuckold relationship.

Being that I've read this forum for years, I though I was going to know a I'd a lot of the stuff contained in the guide... but after reading half the book, a lot of it is actually quite different than I've read in the past. I've found that I fit in the 'provider permisterality' which according to the book is the best type of permisterality for a cuckold relationship. I found that I never ever use the challenge technique for anything in our relationship, which is part of my problem... So I'm starting to take steps to change that now... more to come.
fractious

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#17 Posted: 5 Mar 2012 01:28
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I submitted my e-mail address to get that book, and now it's spamming me!!!

slemx:
Here another guide: The hyperlink is visible to registered members only!

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#18 Posted: 5 Mar 2012 07:15
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okhotwife


the Cuckolds Guide to Good Manners is more of a book for cuckolds and how they should act a must read for the cuckold.

Our guide for $3.49 is a How to Book for wanna be cucks to turn their wives. I have read one of the 29.99 guides after I wrote and published ours and in short they were good but their is nothing in it we did not cover...

Perhaps I am to cheap but ours sells pretty well and i view it as a service to prospective cucks and a small way to get a little money...

The hyperlink is visible to registered members only! _1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1330495544&sr=8-1
swhwwfubbbd

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#19 Posted: 5 Mar 2012 15:20
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Ok fractious time for the acid test for you...
As you say you will give us the details on what this 'guide' is suggesting please give us a detailed description of the challenge technique and putting it in a context we can use because so far all I've seen here is advertising for this 'guide'.
Others have understandably offered links on free working guides and others have shown links for cheap guides.
I'd really want to know what this 'guide' is offering that can't be got for much less and whether the guide can just be posted because like Hephaestus says where does it suggest anywhere about copyright? Certainly lots of sales language on his page but nothing more.
http://www.cuckoldplace.com/10_77714_1.html
slemx

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#20 Posted: 5 Mar 2012 17:19
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fractious:
I submitted my e-mail address to get that book, and now it's spamming me!!!

I'm sorry, dude. My case was a very different history. I signed up about 4 months ago. Over two weeks I was receiving the requested guide in parts (a total of 10 parts), I did not receive any spam mail.

Indeed, in the latter part of the guide the author recommends "Cuckold Coach"... what a small world!
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CountryWall

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#21 Posted: 6 Mar 2012 08:26
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fractious:
Finally, chapters 11 and 12 deal with confessing your cuckold desires to your girl, and general guidelines for good cuckold relationship.

Interesting. I've full on 100% "confessed" the desires to my wife and it makes my cock harder and bigger than hell, and her pussy dripping hot, and we have a great sex life with the verbal stranger fantasy but don't go out seeking someone else, in fact we have never done it in real life. The fantasy is pure bliss.
fractious

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#22 Posted: 9 Mar 2012 02:02 · Edited by: fractious
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swhwwfubbbd:
Ok fractious time for the acid test for you...
As you say you will give us the details on what this 'guide' is suggesting please give us a detailed description of the challenge technique and putting it in a context we can use because so far all I've seen here is advertising for this 'guide'.
Others have understandably offered links on free working guides and others have shown links for cheap guides.
I'd really want to know what this 'guide' is offering that can't be got for much less and whether the guide can just be posted because like Hephaestus says where does it suggest anywhere about copyright? Certainly lots of sales language on his page but nothing more

Well the challenge technique as described is pretty complicated. Hard to explain it in a few sentences... but basically, you challenge your woman, she challenges you, you loose the challenge and she thinks less of you. That sounds simple, but there is a lot more to it, I assure you. They give a lot of examples in the book.

It may some sort of weird, but I'm not really explaining it good. The idea of a lot of the concepts presented in this book is to make your woman think less of you, reduce her sexual attraction to you, so she feels like you are a certain permisterality type and will feel confident and able to go out and get it from someone else when you confess your desires to her.

I'm telling you... it's also reverse psychology. I'd say 50% of the book is stuff I've never read before.

In my own relationship, I've been beginning to challenge my wife. I actually am seeing a difference is her permisterality towards me in one short week. I usually always win -- no more is that the case. I'm purposely letting her win little battles here and there and she's loving it.

The process has begun.
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#23 Posted: 9 Mar 2012 22:25
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No single guide can account for the variations and varied needs of each couple during the transition from vanilla into hotwife / cuckold marriage. This is why individual coaching is most effective for couples just starting out.

I've been writing about cuckolding and coaching/enjoying cuckold couples since 1996 when I first launched fmsb.org (originally fuckmyslutbride.com) and now The hyperlink is visible to registered members only!) My site was the first online specifically related to cuckolding and has been free all that time and will remain so because a profit motive corrupts the message.

I offer a free (2 page) PDF The hyperlink is visible to registered members only! that introduces the role of marital hotwife in a non-threatening manner for those husbands who are struggling to find the nerve to discuss the topic.

Browse the site - you'll find a ton of other inspirational articles.
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#24 Posted: 10 Mar 2012 17:29
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wow! Awesome your blog, Luvr. I have already registered.

The small guide also very good, going direct to the point, very clear, noting important points.

Thank you very much for sharing!
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#25 Posted: 11 Mar 2012 16:16
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fractious:
Well the challenge technique as described is pretty complicated. Hard to explain it in a few sentences... but basically, you challenge your woman, she challenges you, you loose the challenge and she thinks less of you. That sounds simple, but there is a lot more to it, I assure you. They give a lot of examples in the book.

Luvr:
My site was the first online specifically related to cuckolding and has been free all that time and will remain so because a profit motive corrupts the message.

Totally agree with Luvr, the profit motive does seem to entirely corrupt a intended message.

I can't understand why you can't lay out the technique for us here fractious. This just does come off as pure advertising for this particular over priced guide and it doesn't on the face of what you said offer anything new and different to the wannabes search!

This stuff as Hephaestus says can't be copyrighted as its just rehashing others work already done which I'm sure isn't even alluded to in the overpriced PDF the cuckold coach is attempting to sell. And since that is the case can be reproduced at will here?
http://www.cuckoldplace.com/10_77714_1.html
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#26 Posted: 14 Mar 2012 13:07
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Fractious, Keep us updated please. Your older posts not from this thread lead me to believe your genuine in your quest and not a spammer. Im interested if this works as I do NOT like the idea of saying things while wife is arelax. Mine does not relax that well.
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#27 Posted: 14 Mar 2012 19:01
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I also ask that you keep us updated, thanks.
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#28 Posted: 15 Mar 2012 00:56
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freak. My wife is a VERY light relaxer and it seems to work for me. Just a thought.
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#29 Posted: 16 Mar 2012 00:27
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swhwwfubbbd:
I can't understand why you can't lay out the technique for us here fractious. This just does come off as pure advertising for this particular over priced guide and it doesn't on the face of what you said offer anything new and different to the wannabes search!

This stuff as Hephaestus says can't be copyrighted as its just rehashing others work already done which I'm sure isn't even alluded to in the overpriced PDF the cuckold coach is attempting to sell. And since that is the case can be reproduced at will here?

xxxfreak:
Fractious, Keep us updated please.

Keep us updated with some hard facts showing how we can use this precisely. Is it really asking too much to give us the techniques here so we can judge their suitability because if we look at all the other good free stuff around that's linked here the examples given are clear and easy to use and assess for our own permisteral needs and circumstance. So whatever stops sadly xxxfreak from attempting trying one thing can allow him to use other methods that are clearly laid out and readily available to all of us.

Really can't understand the issue of not putting this stuff here for us to understand and make use of unless like I say you are purely here to advertise the sale of a overpriced product without giving anything away.

No one here is suggesting it can't be of use just that theres nothing here that warrants buying a overpriced PDF without any kind of usable examples now is there.
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#30 Posted: 18 Mar 2012 10:46 · Edited by: bpop 
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swhwwfubbbd:
This stuff as Hephaestus says can't be copyrighted as its just rehashing others work already done

While I agree with you that the discussion is just intended to promote a book, you are wrong about how copyright laws work.

If you take someone else's text (copying it word for word) that's plagiarism, and copyright laws protect authors from that.

However, if you rehash the same old material and put it into your own words, there's no copyright protection from that.

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