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Allen

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#1 Posted: 8 Dec 2008 15:08
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Very few, I would assume. To many variables to make an accurate count, and actually how many are cuckolded and don't even know about it....ah well, who knows.
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#2 Posted: 8 Dec 2008 16:02
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We have a group in N. Indiana that totals 14. Of that group, 9 are in a cuckold relationship. Now, how that figure represents America is yet to be seen.
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#3 Posted: 8 Dec 2008 23:25
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The fantasy number is relative low, the real numbers are even lower. Remember, when you visit sites like this they all have a intrest in this. ok at all of the porn sites as a whole and you'll see that it is extremely rare. Then you must factor in the people who don't do porn at all. Overall it is a very rare thing, but it pops up fromm time to time in certain areas.

Remember, everything biological, genetic and social are programmed against this behavior.
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#4 Posted: 9 Dec 2008 19:46
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at least 40%- that would be a conservative guess
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#5 Posted: 12 Dec 2008 02:37
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It's actually a very common fantasy among adult males according to Kinsey. How many folks take it from fantasy to some form of reality is very small. That said the community must be large enough to support 100's of web sites dedicated to the fetish. Then there is the whole community of white women, married or dating other men that have a sexual preference for BBC, with or without their partners permission. This too is a larger community than you think. The stats are about 30% of men cheat, and 20% of women cheat, that is a published statistical fact. Let's not forget about the hotwives.
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#6 Posted: 12 Dec 2008 07:27
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How common is cuckolding? To answer this, we have to define the term 'cuckolding'.

If we define it like many here like to define it (total presentation, chastety, whorewifes, cuck sucking dick, the 'BBC thing' (which on most cuckold web sites seams to be the only 'real' cuckold thing) and other 'extremes' that most of us do not appreciate) then the % would be very low, much less than 1%

If we define it different, and in a more 'normal' way (a mans fantasy about his woman fucking someone, and how this create all the mixed feelings (jealousy, stomack pain, uncertaincy, AND the fantastic TURN ON) then we talk about a much higher number. I would say that to have had this fantasy (some would even call it a nightmare when they wake up with a hardon (depends on which one of all the different feelings that is given highest 'rating')) I think we easily talk about 40-50% of men

If we tak about how many men hwo dream about it in a positive way (keeps a secret form their wifes/gfs but often think about it during sex - or talk open about it with their spouse and they use it sometimes positively as a turnon for both during sex) the numer is quit high - maybe 5-10%

How many who has the balls to go through with a thing like this? I would think 5%, but again; what would the setting be? This number I think is realistic if we include one time threesomes with a couple's/husbands mate a late night after some takeing, all in strickt secret

I also think that in stable relations where there is openess and trust between the woman and man, this is much like with sex in general; sex is something everybody have, in secret, with several people. Men are often open about all their encouters, women not. But who are all these women men are fucking? Women are more secret about it all, but still, most grown up women have had several (secret) lovers through the years

(I read a book once about women's sex histories, and one chapter was about what to say to a new boy friend if he ask the question; how many. The answer/advise was to exclude all 'one night stands', all those who were to ugly to even tell her best girlfirend, all those how were the sort she could never present for her lady, all those she had forgotten name of. And for any reamisters; never say you have has more than 7 men)

So, there is a lot happening in beds around which all of us will never know about. I think discrete threesomes is 'normal' (more normal however, I believe is threesomes invloving two women and one man among married couples)

There is also of course cultural/georeaphical differences which makes this issue much more difficult to have a good answer to. Here in Scandinavia, I belive its much more common than most other areas on the globe. Same with Nederland, Germany and France.

In US, it may be more common in some staes then in others.

It is always a matter of the mans pride, and the woman's willingness (for her more because of the moral issues connected to this). Sexual urges sometimes takes priority, and as long as all is in deep secret and full discression, with someone they both trust; its more normal then most of us is willing to admit

But, as stated in the beginning, if the question is about the extreme which often is on the agrenda on this site: the numbers are very low
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#7 Posted: 12 Dec 2008 12:30
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If a wife is unfaithful to her husband then he is being cuckolded, simple as that. I would estimate that out of 1000 husbands possible as many as 70% will be cuckolded at some stage of their marriage. I did a spell as a divorce lawyer once and believe me I know what goes on out there!

Now if you are talking about husbands allowing their wives to be unfaithfull then you are talking about a different thing altogether. A small percentage of men do turn a blind eye to their wives infidelity and a smaller percentage still are openly and actively involved in cuckolding. There is a large percentage of fantasists out there of course, some are serious about it, but most would run a mile if it happened...or perhaps to the nearest divorce court!
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#8 Posted: 12 Dec 2008 14:02
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A recent editorial in Forum magazine (UK)suggested that 'wifewatching' was becoming more mainstream(I assume based on a readers survey), and the same issue contained an article providing practical advice as well as psychological background for would be cuckolds, cuckolders and cuckoldresses.
This followed on from a feature on 'consensual cuckoldry' about 6 months ago,which prompted some interesting correspondence.
I agree with Fun Gall that if you define cuckolding in its orthodox dictionary sense then the overall figure will be quite high, but I suspect the figure for consensual cuckolding(which is what the majority of cuckolding sites are dedicated to) may also be significantly higher than people might think. Apart from a few dedicated exhibitionists, the majority of of couples have kids, careers, neighbourhood reputations and broader family considerations to consider, and so are likely to want to remain discreet.....
My wife and I have only ever confided details of our arrangement to a select few of our friends- which adds a frismister of excitement to proceedings- and whilst we recognise that there are others who will have their suspicions, but we both think it would prove awkward both permisterally and professionally if our lifestyle became more public knowledge, (although we tend to be more relaxed about being open about our lifestyle when on holiday abroad)

As far as the letter pages from Forum are concerned, its certainly appears a very common fantasy for many men, and if even only 10% of those letters are essentially true, then it is definitely the case that most of the wifewatching activity is instigated by the husbands themselves- which was certainly the case in our marriage.
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#9 Posted: 12 Dec 2008 14:03
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fun_gall
fun_gall, I understand your concerns about posting some pics, but it would be a fantastic turn-on to see you; and not too difficult to arrange something that would preserve your anonimity.

Go on, be a sport! We all really enjoy your posts!
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#10 Posted: 12 Dec 2008 18:48
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Mean while back at the ranch
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#11 Posted: 12 Dec 2008 21:06
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mred- No, about 40% have wives fucking around and he doesnt know about it. In very few cases does the cuck know whats going on- probabably less than 5 %.
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#12 Posted: 13 Dec 2008 19:27
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Quoting: randyadrian

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fun_gall
fun_gall, I understand your concerns about posting some pics, but it would be a fantastic turn-on to see you; and not too difficult to arrange something that would preserve your anonimity.

Go on, be a sport! We all really enjoy your posts!


Adrian, my randy friend...Have'nt you heard that a picture is worth a thousand words? By that reckoning fun_gal as painted several lovely portraits!!

Regarding the numbers and statistics: a huge and probably boring book could be written and then critiques and challenges and counter theories would spring up, ad pukeum and we would still wonder Can't we just all get along...and fuck or fluff; each to our own inclinations
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Will meet for sissy sex with yor cuck!!
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#13 Posted: 15 Dec 2008 15:32
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Quoting: bullfluffnswallow
Adrian, my randy friend...Have'nt you heard that a picture is worth a thousand words? By that reckoning fun_gal as painted several lovely portraits!!

Drat! Perhaps I could help hubby lick you clean then??
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#14 Posted: 15 Dec 2008 15:35
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I once saw an interview with the letters editor from Penthouse where he said having one's wife or girlfriend screwed by another man was the single most common theme of the letters they received.
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#15 Posted: 15 Dec 2008 16:11
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#16 Posted: 18 Dec 2008 09:42 · Edited by: drfarmer
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Quoting: MJ69
The stats are about 30% of men cheat, and 20% of women cheat, that is a published statistical fact.


Quoting: fun_gall
I would estimate that out of 1000 husbands possible as many as 70% will be cuckolded at some stage of their marriage.


Quoting: mred4682
Swinging might be ... 6-7%.


MJ69's numbers are correct, but they are based on self-admitted/self-reported surveys. It has been found that, even under conditions of discretion, only half of men will admit to their cheating, and only one out of three to four women will admit to their cheating. (This seems reamisterable since men are more likely to brag.) Using both sets of statistics to extrapolate to a true estimate, then about 60% of all husbands and between 60% and 80% of all wives cheat on their respective spouses. So, I would say that fun_gall's number is quite accurate. Further, buttressing these figures, a large Canadian/US genetic study has discovered that a solid 10% of all North American babies purportedly sired by the husband are actually maned by another man, much to the surprise of the husband (and the researchers, who were looking for something else). Apparently, cheating is a very common cross-cultural and cross-generational phenomenon.

At first blush, these seem like astonishingly high numbers. But after some permisteral, if anecdotal, discussions with husbands I have known to have been cheated upon, coupled with the discovery that my own sweet innocent religious wife cheated on me a mere three years into my marriage (bareback, for several years, and while we were trying to conceive a second young) as well as extensive reading about female psychology, I am no longer surprised. (Be not concerned for me. The wife and I have since reconciled her affair.)

From my experience, Mred's estimate for swinging couples of 6% to 7% seems about right to me (maybe a bit high), but cuckolding (using the widest scope definition) is much more common. Anyway, this does not exactly answer the original question about cuckolding (I don't know of the proper definition for it nowadays either), but the cheating statistics provide a proper framing of the issue.
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#17 Posted: 23 Dec 2008 18:25
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Uhmm, I did not mean to be the last word on this subject, just add a few of mine to everyone else's. Since cheating is so common (equally for both genders), then it seems that cuckolding must also be quite common.

In my case, the wife's cheating and eventual admission to me has lead to many positive changes in our marriage, including swinging, swapping, and soloing. (You can check my earlier posts for more detail.) On the whole, life for us both is much much better than before. All of our paramours similarly agree with respect to their own marriages. I don't think our arrangement could be classified as cuckolding, although there is a lot in common.
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#18 Posted: 2 Jan 2009 06:10
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..my experience?..1000...
And I've got one, two, three, four, five,....senses working overtime....
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#19 Posted: 4 Jan 2009 19:40
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Quoting: runnaround
..my experience?..1000...


From your experience, 1000 out of 1000 husbands are cuckolds? Pray tell. Sounds like some good stories there.
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#20 Posted: 4 Jan 2009 20:22
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There is probably a lot of cuckolding going on, but most of it is probably done secretly and ***ly.
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#21 Posted: 5 Jan 2009 21:31
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Quoting: Kali
There is probably a lot of cuckolding going on, but most of it is probably done secretly and ***ly.


Kali, I think you are right. See the next post.
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#22 Posted: 5 Jan 2009 21:51
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By a fantastic coincidence (or not) (hmm!) I received a book from my lady-in-law for Christmas entitled 100 Things You're Not To Supposed To Know which has as entry 52 the following:

Out Of Every 100 People, Ten Weren't Fathered By The Man They Believe Is Dad

Geneticists, disease researchers, and evolutionary psychologists have known it for a while, but the statistic hasn't gotten much air outside of the ivory tower. Consistently, they find that one in ten of us wasn't maned by the man we think is our biological dad.

Naturally, adoptees and stepyoungren realize their paternal situation. What we're talking about here is people who have taken it as a given, for their entire lives, that dear old Dad is the one who contributed his sperm to the process. Even Dad himself may be under this impression. And Mom, knowing it's not a sure thing, just keeps quiet.

Genetic testing companies report that almost one third of the time, samples sent to them show that the man is not the man to the young. But these companies are used when there's a court order in a paternity suit or when a man gets suspicious because his kid looks a lot like his best friend or his wife's coworker. So we shouldn't be surprised that the non-paternity rate for these tests hovers around 30 percent.

The shocker comes when we look at the numbers for accidental discoveries, those that occur when paternity isn't thought to be an issue. Sometimes this happens on an individual basis; other times, due to large-scale studies of red types, disease susceptibility, kinship, and other fields of medical and scientific investigation.

Dr. Caoilfhionn Gallagher of the University College Dublin gives an example of the former:

The paradigmatic situation is that three people come to a hospital together, a husband, wife and their young who they fear has cystic fibrosis. If the young has the incurable disease she must have received two copies of the CF gene, one from each parent. Tests at the hospital confirm the family's worst fears - she has the disease - also reveal something unexpected. The young's lady carries one of the culprit genes, but the man's DNA shows no such sign, which means he is not the carrier and therefore cannot possibly be her biological man.

The latter type of discovery occurred in the classic case from the early 1970s. Scientists were eyeballing red types in the British town of West Isleworth, taking the red stuff from entire families. They realized, to their dismay, that fully 30 percent of the youngren had red types which proved that they couldn't possibly be biologically related to their "mans." The true rate of illegitimacy was still higher, though, because even some mans and bastards would have matching red types due to coincidence. The researchers estimated that the true rate was around 50 percent.

Other studies have found a 20-30 percent rate in Liverpool, 10 percent in rural Michigan, and 2.3 percent among native Hawaiians. The overall figure of 10 percent is actually an average estimate based on many studies taking place in sundry regions over the course of decades. In his book Sperm Wars: The Science of Sex, biologist Robin Baker, PhD, summarizes the stats:

Actual figures range from 1 percent in high-status areas of the United States and Switzerland, to 5 to 6 percent for moderate-status males in the United States and Great Britain, to 10 to 30 percent for lower-status males in the United States, Great Britain and France.

The prestigious medical journal The Lancet concurs: "The true frequency of non-paternity is not known, but published reports suggest an incidence from as low as 1% per generation up to about 30% in the population."

The research shows that the lower a purported man's socioeconomic status, the more likely his wife got someone else to man the young. From a Darwinian standpoint this makes perfect sense, since she wants her offspring to have the highest-caliber DNA, which may not come from the stiff she settled for at the altar.

This knowledge should make Father's Day a much more interesting, and introspective, holiday.

References
American Association of Blood Banks. "Annual Report Summary for Testing in 1999." No date.
American Association of Blood Banks. "Annual Report Summary for Testing in 2001." Oct 2002.
Baker, Robin. Ph.D. Sperm Wars: The Science of Sex. HarperCollins, 1996.
Child Support Analysis website. "Misattributed Paternity." 5 July 2004. [www.youngsupportanalysis.co.uk].
Gallagher, Caoilfhionn. "In the Name of the Father? Legal and Ethical Dilemmas Surrounding 'Accidental' Findings of Non-Paternity." Annual Conference 2003, Socio-Legal Studies Association at Nottigham Law School. [www.nls.ntu.ac.uklslsa2003/].
Lucassen, Anneke and Michael Parker "Revealing False Paternity: Some Ethical Considerations" Lancet 357 (2001): 1033-5.
Philipp, E. "Discussion: Moral, Social and Ethical Issues." Law and Ethics of A.I.D. and Embryo Transfer. Ciba Foundation Symposium (Vol. 17), G.E.W. Wostenholme and D.W. Fitzsimons (eds.). Amsterdam: Elsevier, Excerpta Medica, North-Holland, 1973: 63-66.

From 100 Things You're Not Supposed To Know, Russ Kick, MJF Books, NY (2004).


So, not only is there a whole lot of cheating and cuckolding going on, it is largely done in secret, and it is a phenomenon that is well known within certain academic circles. This source seems to confirm what I have read from WebMD and other online sources about cheating.
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#23 Posted: 7 Jan 2009 23:10
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Fascinating discussion...

Who knows what the real percentage is.. and of course how you define it varies a lot. I think of this fetish as a continuum from mildly erotic for some couples to the extreme (gross) sissy crap, which I believe (and hope) is pretty rare. I suspect the bulk of the bell curve of healthy males find the idea of their wife being fucked by another guy quite erotic, even though the socially acceptable response is to be heartbroken. However, the reality of actually doing it on a regular basis is another thing altogether.

There is another anecdote to add to this discussion. My wife & i have been in the Lifestyle for a good number of years and we have had the opportunity to talk to countless couples about their fantasies. It turns out that the most common scenario in the swinging world is MFM threesomes. This is partly because this is the easiest to set up (given how rare a single woman is!), but the interesting part is that the majority of guys actually get more excited watching their wives getting fucked than they do by fucking another girl (duh!). In fact, a lot of guys start off in the swinging scene (thinking they want to screw other women), and then gravitate to the wife-watching world because that's more exciting.

So, in a sense, you can consider a pretty big chunk of the active swinger population to be at lease closet cucks, or maybe more accurately, occasional and unwitting cucks. That would put the percentage of guys thinking about this fetish a lot higher, even though many don't know the term 'cuck'.

My estimation is something like this:

15-20% of guys are really turned on by watching their wives and would love to try it.

3-5% of couples have actually done an MFM or had a cuck experience

1-2% of couples are actual regular swingers. 60-80% of guys in the Lifestyle are turned on by their wives being fucked.

I don't have anything to add about Misattributed Paternity... that is not erotic to me.. i just see big complications..
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#24 Posted: 9 Jan 2009 18:52
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Wow! Interesting thread.

My wife Kate and I have been in the lifestyle together for 20 years. Like many couples, we started out trying to be "swingers", going to clubs and conventions and playing with other couples.

We soon realized, as many other couples do, how difficult it is to get four people in the same mood, for the same thing, at the same time. I also discoved that I was often more interested in watching Kate than playing with the woman of the other couple.

We soon realized that finding guys who were interested in fucking Kate was really easy. We discovered that if we incorporated other men into our lifestyle, we could play a lot more often.

Considering the people who do not participate in the lifestyle, I believe that it more common that we might think for a guy to encourage his wife to seduce his brother, cousin or close male friend, even if it is a one-time event or if that is the only other guy the wife every plays with. I think that a lot of guys want to share something special with men they are close to.

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#25 Posted: 22 Jan 2009 19:40
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look at the numbers on this site until i found it i thought i was almost totaly alone the members number nearly 83000 and that is only 1 site
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#26 Posted: 24 Jan 2009 12:22
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totally agree, pennpals! good post
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#27 Posted: 30 Jan 2009 11:54
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gotta tell you all firstly Im no hung stud...Im only average but from what Ive seen on this site..guess small..thanks hung fukers lol..but my wife and I HATE the overused word of cuck.. that should be locked up in the closet not openly thrown around the net...we are swingers shes not a female cuck and I am NOT a male cuck...my wife took me because I made her boyfriend look like a wimp wouldnt fight me and even though he was "bigger" I fucked her better...and I made love better ...but all we did in the beginning (minus our first) was fuck...lovemaking came later after marriage...that and we really did fall in love old school style real love etc..our swinging relationship has included her fucking about 40 different men I was there for all of em..(all but 2 buddies of mine) (..one he let me use his place to bring a babe over is why I agreed plus I trusted him to not cum in her the other one just felt sorry for was running a bad streak and couldnt be around another guy naked..and she wanted to fuck him...he went gay.. so we heard.. a couple years later so we dont talk anymore..not safe)...rubber or not I never allowed that $hit of cum in my wife..cover her in it on the outside though great for pics! minus she for a short period while we first swinging she started trying to swallow I cut that cuckolds brownie short real quick...my job in that was to keep her safe...and warning to you "new cucks" hate that damn word but anyways a women in the heat of the moment will say in lust cum in my pussy...you let them fuck on their own without you you will be cleaning and will catch whatever disease they caught!! keep em safe or make sure their playmates have been tested! I have only been with maybe 10 women(since marriage) versus her 40... I was once another womens bull she was with a black man but he tried a reach around no no no! my dick belongs to women only..tis IMO the natural order of things but anyways you now know how we do things... my problem is and hers too I think in a different way but both mental ...I cant get it up without a LONG period of foreplay when ALONE with another woman?? I get it up for wifey whenever need be sometimes to much it hurts her...Im thinking mental cause when I was as this community calls it "being a bull" she was so mad and heart broken she was sitting on the porch waiting for me one night to come home and be with her..it was freezing outside but she still waited outside for me to come home...I was takes smelled like pussy(she ate that same pussy by the way..hehe) but she looked like her heart had been broken...I love my wife completely totally...could this type issue be why I cant get it up easily for other hot babes? and she is no longer interested in swinging fucking other men etc..?....now here is the kicker...if we got back into it she wants me to be the wimp? she didnt say that exactly but shes hinting..she wont say much cause she knows it will piss me off but she is in like the midlife sexual crisis? she also has a problem if she fucks a "lengthy hung" dude she hurts not in a good way...she loves thickness though..lol..but she wants to fuck possibly if we find the right fit for her and he will be nice and leave as soon as she is done with him..etc..but she no longer wants me to do it with other women...this is what I consider cuck I guess...versus swinging...she can but wont let me..is this just a mid life thing???.. though she gave me the option to do it but not tell..shes always kinda been like that doesnt want to know even though I tell regardless...(maybe she knows she will find out anyways?..err I like honesty)Im thinking if I do that she will try and start being alone with them...THATS CHEATING not swinging..if she does that and doesnt tell me b4 hand...IMO...she thinks now it might be fun but being alone you "cucks" that have loved and lost might know"..will she give her heart out to the wrong guy any guy she giving her heart to is wrong..I dont care to goto jail for beating someone then he has free rein with her etc...I want her to get back into swinging but she has this thing about being with other men and me not being with other women now...all this cuck stuff makes me worry she could be lead astray..stray..lol..pun...so what do you all think...this is one of those dont guess Ive beentheredonethat yet...good thing is she doesnt like people...lol..except if they make her cum...I know 40 guys isnt much compared to some of ya couples but I had to screen em and keep her safe over the last say 20 years I just worried if I let her go with this...will I end up in jail and will she be unhappy minus the sex..lol..she has a big heart but like us dudes her pelvic region might rule to a point it hurts her etc...comments & opinions please..or could it be she is worried that at our age another woman might fall in love with me...she should know I will never leave her...but anyways as I sai comments please
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#28 Posted: 30 Jan 2009 12:28
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beenthere:

You are in the wrong forum. Repost under its own title. Comment: You are now a cuckold because she has decided so.
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#29 Posted: 30 Jan 2009 13:05
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dude that sux on both issues but I bet I can do your wife and make her scream your a wimp(may jus be a swinger but you told me what I didnt want to hear fuker..lol..thanx fer remisterding though)! I better not be a cuck I hate that word...I will change this I will tie her up and make her watch me fuk another women so she sees how much that women likes it...then I can change the playing field..or pis her off alot...wonder if that could backfire?
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#30 Posted: 30 Jan 2009 17:42 
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I made her red i fuked her so hard but she still wants more she said she wants the sides dragged more...thought I did that? hit the g and made sure her clit was rubbed hard the whole time....she wants to be streeeetched..I guess ..Im cool with that cause we have done that and she tightens up within a month...but damn I guess shes getting ready.. I d/l ed a sound file of a dude doing someone elses wife and she liked the sounds and said she wanted to sound like that...she did make same sounds almost but I guess she wants more...damn I opened her up this morning thanks for the sound file! this site helped...i got lucky!! here is a pic with text so it doesnt go every where..I think after talking I know what i must do ...be another womans playmate and i will keep her so jealous she will never leave me...that means in some wierd way I win and I keep her no matter how good they fuk..yes? dont pass this pic please asking nicely...if i see it other than here I will never post again..discretion is a must for us respect that
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