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carocpl

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#571 Posted: 25 Jan 2010 00:46 · Edited by: carocpl
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allen how does it feel knowing she likes his cock? when i saw my wife with her bf it blew me away with how many orgasms she had. Hope you get there!
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#572 Posted: 25 Jan 2010 04:36
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allen how does it feel knowing she likes his cock?


Funny as it may sound...it feels great. Ilove the fact that given the choice...she would rather has his cock in her than mine.


Sorry for no update today. Was gearing up for a New Orleans to beat the Vikings. Damn...what a game. But it did turn out to the way I was hoping...and now back to being a fan of my home team.

I will follow tomorrow with the details from my wifes expedition...with a couple after pics for everyone. Till tomorrow...
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#573 Posted: 25 Jan 2010 09:59
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CETTE GROSSE SALOPE A LA CHATTE BIEN POILUE ET SAIT BIEN PRENDRE DE LA BITTE. SUR LA PHOTO " ELLE SAIT RECEVOIR " , LA CHIENNE NE SE FAIT PAS PRIER POUR SE FAIRE COMBLER.
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#574 Posted: 25 Jan 2010 16:46
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CETTE GROSSE SALOPE A LA CHATTE BIEN POILUE ET SAIT BIEN PRENDRE DE LA BITTE. SUR LA PHOTO " ELLE SAIT RECEVOIR " , LA CHIENNE NE SE FAIT PAS PRIER POUR SE FAIRE COMBLER.


Sorry, but I don't understand what you are quoting.
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#575 Posted: 25 Jan 2010 17:55
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Allen,
Google translates that as follows:

"THE BIG GIRLS AT THE HAIRY PUSSY WELL AND KNOW WELL TAKE THE BITTE. PHOTO ON THE "KNOW RECEIVE IT, THE DOG DOES NOT DONE TO PRAY TO CLOSING."

Makes perfect sense to me, Haha!
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#576 Posted: 26 Jan 2010 05:50
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Well, at least google knows what that means.

Anywho, as I mentioned above she left to go to his house around 9:15 ish and came home around 10:20 ish. She went back to his place with her swim suit on to do some hot tubbing. She didn't come home for another 2 F-ING HOURS!!. 2 hours was a long wait for me...and to not be able to fuck her again when she got home...damn.

Earlier in the day the neighbor went with another friend of ours out to lunch. The had a few beers and made their way back this way. The neighbor sent me a text "Is the bar open?". Of course my bar is always open. They came over and the three of us spent a couple hours drinking cocktails and getting pretty buzzed up. Our buddy left, and the neighbor stayed for supper. We kept drinking and he later went home.

After we got the kids to bed, I went into the kitchen. I looked out the kitchen window and through the dark in his room, I could see his white socked feet at the end of his bed. He went home and passed out. It was not long before I started to feel affects of alcohol and sitting around. I was getting ready to go to sleep when the wife was really ready to go. I told her to get herself ready and go over to the his house. "Hon, go wake his ass up and have fun".

It didn't have to twist her arm to hard and poof!!! She was out the door and over at his place. I watched her walk with that walk she does...I am gonna get some walk. She went into his house, took her coat and hung it at his kitchen table. She made her way into his bedroom...he said "what are you doing here...you should be at home with your husband"...She said "well, he was being boring, so I came over here." Honestly, I guess I was being boring, but at least she had an alternative. She had to get on him and wake him a little to get his motor running. He knows that she is very ticklish and took full advantage of that. He tickled her relentlessly and pinned her on her back with her head at the foot of his bed. I could actually see her from our dark kitchen. I didn't know what was going on at this point...was he fucking her, fingering her, or just teasing her.

She later told me that he was mainly teasing/tickling her...but also he started to finger her. Later they moved into the living room where they made out more...he teased and teased and teased some more. She was playing with his cock...him with her pussy, kissing and a lot of tit play. Those were sore to!!!

He just seemed to only want to tease...when she said "you know, I only came over here to see if the hot tub is open." He promptly got up and made his way to his room. She followed with some question in her mind "what is going on"...she thought. He started to change into his suit. She took that as his obvious answer and told him that she would be right back. She left, came home, basically ordered me to get her a drink, changed into her suit and left. She didn't hardly say a thing to me. She had her mind on one track...and it was right back to him. And I loved every second of it.

She made her way over again...dropped her stuff in his kitchen before heading out to the hot tub. She got in the hot tub and nothing really happened at first. He sat in one corner, she in the other. But that didn't last all to long when he started to play a little footsie. Not satisfied with that, she moved over right next to him and thats when she noticed he wasn't wearing any shorts. She could see visually that he was completely naked. She said "no one told me it was naked hot tubbing tonight"..and he said "well, not for you anyway". He made his move to her and pushed her back against her seat, kissing her and playing with her tits. It wasn't long before she had her bottoms off and he replaced them with his hand and fingers. He was kissing her mouth and pushing her top to the side, sucking and nipping at her tits.

They then moved over to the other side of the hot tub, her back agian against the side. She was a bit lower than he was, she was spread wide open...he slid his cock into her eager pussy. His chest was at face level...his chest pushing into her face, forcing her head into the top edge of the hot tub. He fucked her slow at first, then picking up the pace to a hard fast fuck. His forcefull fucking combined with his placement of his chest...rammed her head into the edge of the hot tub. She took it for a short time before he realized what was going on. He then put his arm under her head and continued to fuck her pussy like it was his to take. (Honestly...He might have done just that...he has had more sex with her this year than me).

Slow then fast, slow then fast...he kept pacing himself. He wanted to fuck her in the hot tub like this for some time. He even told her that this is something he has wanted to do. They change postitions to doggy, then to some side fucking...to her back on the edge with her legs over his shoulders. He had not cum yet...BUT SHE DID...TWICE!!! I have only ever made her cum by just fucking her one time.

They went back to the first position with her bottom under water, him on top of her, his arm behind her head. With her legs as wide open as she could get...he pounded away relentlessly. The water must have deadened the feeling to his cock. They have been at it for almost two hours...who knows how much of that was actual fucking (she doesn't remember, it was all great...so she says). Eventually after a long time of fucking and sucking...he came in her pussy. Completely exhaused he leanded back and sat down...trying to catch his breath...he was totally spent. She was in heaven...so satisfied, so fucked completely, happy and content. They continued with some small talk after...realizing that some time has past they got out of the hot tub and made their way back into the house to dry off. He dried off, she also did...and she got dressed into some warmer cloths. As she was leaving she kissed him, him to her. She came home...

She walked in and said "oh my God"..."that was great". I could see she was "totally" satisfied. "Sorry hon, I am really sore again tonight...you will have to wait for your turn". I didn't really get to say much before she went to bathroom to clean up and then to come back to bed. We talked about what had happened next door. I had to see what he did to her, and told her I wanted to take some pics. She agreed and we took these. I so wanted to eat her, and then fuck her gaping pussy. But I had to wait...Mistress said so. I love this woman.

Here is what I saw, but was not allowed to touch.






orban victoria

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#577 Posted: 26 Jan 2010 09:14
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This is great! It's strange that you and the neighbour do not speak of their relation. And I realized that she started to dominate you sexually more and more.
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#578 Posted: 26 Jan 2010 16:47
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I loved the part where she didnt talk to you before she left because she was focused on the fucking she was about to get. And I especially loved the part that he has fucked her more than you have this year!
Reading your posts makes me yearn to have a sililar experience. Arrrrrrrrgggg!
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#579 Posted: 27 Jan 2010 04:17
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Something kinda new. My wife has a new personal trainer to try and lose some weight, and get into shape. She has been trying to lose some of the kid weight for a little bit now. So, bare with me as I try to explain this.

The neighbor works with a guy who was divorced. This guy is recently engaged to this personal trainer. I happen to know this personal trainer from many years ago. I am also friends with this guy. Ok, now my wife went to meet with the personal trainer for the first time tonight. Tonight is normally the night I go and watch the neighbor bowl. The other guy bowls on the same team as the neighbor. So since the other guy and the personal trainer have been together, she comes down after work to watch as well.

Tonight, the personal trainer and my wife went to watch the fiance and the neighbor bowl. I was at home with the kids, did dishes, fed the kids, gave the kids baths...and then put them to bed. Normally that is what she does on Tuesday nights. Damn.

She called me just a bit ago to let me know she was leaving the bowling alley. Very good...I thought...she should be home shortly. But as I was just finishing my thought...she said "oh, and I am going up to the bar with the neighbor" Oh hell...going out in public with him for the first time...just the two of them. I also happen to know that the bar they are going to...the bartender is a mutual friend of all of ours. I know nothing obvious will happen in front of this bartender, but the fact this is the first time out without me...HOT!!!

I could really use some fresh fucked pussy and a creampie about now...but maybe in a couple hours. Then again...who knows. Till tomorrow.
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#580 Posted: 27 Jan 2010 04:41
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Allen that sounds great! Erika is slowly desiring to be with her BF with others and not you with them. It is very hot indeed and hopefully just the start. Hopefully though she spends the night and in the morning you will have a breakfast creampie. Love the pics you last shared. Has she talked about being shared with others yet? Would be interested in seeing more pics of her entire body if you can share. Once again all your postings and updates are very appreciated.
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#581 Posted: 27 Jan 2010 05:47
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Wow Allen. Make sure she knows that it turned you on knowing she was out with the neighbor in public. It's not always about sex, is it? Its about her pleasure and tonight she's finding pleasure just hanging out with him. Hopefully they will be feeling alright when they come home and she will just follow him inside his house instead of coming home.
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#582 Posted: 27 Jan 2010 09:22 · Edited by: orban victoria
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It sounds hot, but be careful.
In my case only Vicky's some girlfriend knows about her lovers. I think the neighbours suspect that too. Our parents and friends do not know anything. We are careful because of our children.
By the way I think we will have to be more and mre careful in the near future as kids getting smarter.
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#583 Posted: 27 Jan 2010 13:28
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Quoting: sensual4wife
Allen that sounds great! Erika is slowly desiring to be with her BF with others and not you with them. It is very hot indeed and hopefully just the start. Hopefully though she spends the night and in the morning you will have a breakfast creampie. Love the pics you last shared. Has she talked about being shared with others yet? Would be interested in seeing more pics of her entire body if you can share. Once again all your postings and updates are very appreciated.


She was home by a little after 10. Nothing much happened. I think mostly because we know a lot of people in the area as mutual friends or acquaintances. I did ask her "you coming home tonight?"...she said yes...most likely because she has to work pretty early. As far as being with others, she won't even entertain the idea unless she was not with the neighbor. She is a one...I mean two man woman Thanks for your comments.

Quoting: iwmwtcm
Wow Allen. Make sure she knows that it turned you on knowing she was out with the neighbor in public. It's not always about sex, is it? Its about her pleasure and tonight she's finding pleasure just hanging out with him. Hopefully they will be feeling alright when they come home and she will just follow him inside his house instead of coming home.


She knows...oh she knows how turned on I was. Normally a night I hang out with him...and she took it over. But just for this one time...right?
Actually when she came home, we talked. She told me it was really nice to just hang out without any overtones. She said that they had only a mild sexaual overtone and it was mostly just the hanging out type situation. She and I both agree, that was a great thing for them. It can't always be about the sex...they are also friends. So, overall not much went on...but she and are very much ok with it.

Quoting: orban victoria
It sounds hot, but be careful.
In my case only Vicky's some girlfriend knows about her lovers. I think the neighbours suspect that too. Our parents and friends do not know anything. We are careful because of our children.
By the way I think we will have to be more and mre careful in the near future as kids getting smarter.


Thanks Orban, so far only one of her gf's know about this. This is someone she only sees about once every two months or so. We really do not want anyone to know about our arrangement. Exspecially the kids. Mine are a little younger yet, but those little guys are very smart and show up in places when you least expect it. Between our friends and family...some wouldn't care as others would look down on it. Even though we want this to remain "our thing"...the prospect of being "outed" is a hot feeling.

You also mentioned above about him not really wanting to talk about it. I am not sure why he does not want to. I have brought it up through hints and dropped opportunities for him to bring it up...but little to nothing. I would say that it would might be his conservative upbringing. It goes against what we were brought up with...but I will have to take it as it goes.

***Over all last night was about my wife and the neighbor being friends. They both enjoyed just hanging out. The sexual overtone was light, as would be with any male/female friendship. They had a great time...and my wife enjoyed the comments made by others..."its about time you get out without him"..."its about time he stays home with the kids"...etc..

It was a fun experience for us both...maybe it was her first date?***
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#584 Posted: 28 Jan 2010 19:24
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Wow it must have been murder seeing that gorgeous pussy right there and doing nothing but take pics...but hey thanks for those pics!!...Damn Erika you rock and you didnt even know it ;)..!
look at you now :D! My girl does similar things but differently. But this is about you two. So maybe I'll post later. I think more of us would post but we have no advice and simply repeating the same things would be boring. We would much rather read, learn, understand, and jack. ;)
did ya have fun?
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#585 Posted: 29 Jan 2010 05:44 · Edited by: Allen
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Damn...this is shaping up to be good start of the new year. It is now 10:39 and she left just about ten minutes ago to visit the neighbor. I was at his place with another friend of ours...having some beers. The other friend and I left at the same time. I walked into my house, into the kitchen...and my wife standing in front of me..."he sent me a text...the door won't be locked".

Ok, I didn't even notice him text her...but that little m-r-f-r...did it when he went to the pisser. Sneaky, Sneaky....


Either way...I love this...as I am sure she does as well. We will all be going out on Saturday...about 10 to 15 of us will be out having a good time. So...hopefully???? Friday...well that is a wide open nite...so...

Good cucking everyone.

And it was delicious...I didn't ask her any details this time...she just came in, sat on my face...i ate the creampie and fucked her. Then went to bed. It was after midnight and 5 am gets her way to early to go into details. A little tired this morning, but well worth it.
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#586 Posted: 29 Jan 2010 17:00
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Quoting: cubsfan2100179
I've loved this post since you began. She's simply amazing and I wish my wife would start up activities as well. I would love to clean your wife after you and the neighbor took care of her.


Never say never...

Quoting: arthurarthur
Wow it must have been murder seeing that gorgeous pussy right there and doing nothing but take pics...but hey thanks for those pics!!...Damn Erika you rock and you didnt even know it ;)..!
look at you now :D! My girl does similar things but differently. But this is about you two. So maybe I'll post later. I think more of us would post but we have no advice and simply repeating the same things would be boring. We would much rather read, learn, understand, and jack. ;)



It was agonizing...I wanted to dive right in and eat that lovely pussy, but she was way to sore again. At least she lets me jack off...telling me about what she and he just did. We both love how naughty it is for her to not just fuck him, but for him to "ruin" her for me.
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#587 Posted: 29 Jan 2010 19:29
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Yes that married young cunt being abused by another. Not her husband. Being ruined so her hubby can appreciate her more. Our lust grows soo much for a woman we 'can't have', so naughty! I love letting my girl be and do everything she would like.
did ya have fun?
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#588 Posted: 30 Jan 2010 06:22
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allen big fan of your thread. last thing i check before bed, first thing i check when i get home from work. your a lucky man not only is erika a good looking woman,and willing to play but shes still doing this for you and her. if she was doing this for him she would be going over when she had her period and sucking him to sleep. maybe you should ask her to send you a pic of her hand with wedding ring showing wraped around his dick when shes there and your home.(and post it here for us pervs) my ex wife use to do that when i was home baby sitting and she was at my friends house. use to make it hard to think straight waiting for her to get home..
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#589 Posted: 31 Jan 2010 22:35 · Edited by: sissyfluff
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Allen,have you ever considered clueing the neighbor in about this website? If he were to read the full twenty pages, then the three of you would be on the same page so to speak. I believe this would show him that he has nothing to be anxious about and should convince him of your respect for him. Maybe he would be encouraged to take a more leading role in the "affair" if he knew of his large fan base out here in cyberworld. Just a thought. We're rooting for you.
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#590 Posted: 3 Feb 2010 02:11 · Edited by: Allen
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arthurarthur:

So very, very true.

dirtyd:

thank you for your kind words. i would love for her to send me some pics...any pics for that matter. but unfortunately...she just won't do it. hopefully some day she will, but as of now when she is over by him, she is totally into him and not really worried about me. she has told me that she loves the fact it drives me crazy...wondering what positions he has her in, is he fucking her right now, is he fingering her, eating her pussy, is she taking his cock in her mouth...or is she letting him take her ass for the first time? I hope to someday watch her, but, until then i will have to be content with what she gives me.
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#591 Posted: 3 Feb 2010 02:22
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Quoting: sissyfluff
Allen,have you ever considered clueing the neighbor in about this website? If he were to read the full twenty pages, then the three of you would be on the same page so to speak. I believe this would show him that he has nothing to be anxious about and should convince him of your respect for him. Maybe he would be encouraged to take a more leading role in the "affair" if he knew of his large fan base out here in cyberworld. Just a thought. We're rooting for you.


We are just not sure yet on if it would be a good idea...just yet. He does not know of my submissiveness tward his position in this relationship. And at this point...my wife and I don't think it would be a good idea. He does know that when my wife is at his house...he is in charge, when she is at home she is in charge of me...but thats it. He does not know that she is feeding me her fresh fucked pussy, nor about me fucking her while she tells me about him and her. But then again, she tells me that...she does not tell me everything that she and he do.

So, it might work out that he would take a larger role in the relationship...however, I am also concerned that it may hurt our relationship. He is also a best friend to me and my wife...outside the sexual relationship. So, that being said...not yet...maybe down the road a little bit yet.

Thank you for you comments and words of encouragement.
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#592 Posted: 3 Feb 2010 10:07
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Great work as always Allen! Your posts keep me coming back here, lol! As always waiting for more updates and, if we get so lucky, more sexy pics!

Take things in your own time. I wouldn't be showing him this website unless you were 100% comfortable with it.
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#593 Posted: 8 Feb 2010 08:11
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hey allen hope all is well. tell ericka we need more pics even with clothes on she is sexy as hell... knowing how hard it was for me, just wondering is it hard to look at your friend even with large group hanging around and focus on anything other than him having the power over your wife and you. all it takes is him wanting some and she runs, and he wrecks that pussy to the point it fucks with you not getting some. ask any wife on this site, a woman will tell her lover things about her husband while they cuddle in the afterglow,but hubby gets just what she feels cumfortable with telling about her lover. the first thing a guy asks is am i bigger than your husband.so he knows hes bigger and shes told him she has to get home to feed you his cum.. just a guess from my talk with my ex. love you guys (in a non faggot way). cant wait for more from you !!!
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#594 Posted: 8 Feb 2010 15:37
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Allen,
Hope things are well. Did you guys have a Superbowl party? Did the neighbor get a touchdown?
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#595 Posted: 9 Feb 2010 03:25
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Zero, zilch...nada. Things have been extremely quiet around here. The neighbor has been busy almost every night remodeling the upper unit of his duplex. I have helped only a little bit.

And to make it worse...she is due any day now with her monthly curse...and even worse...due to my work, I will be working 14 to 16+ hr days for the next couple weeks. The month of Feb. is a killer for me...but at least I am one of the lucky ones still employed.

One exception. Next week I am taking my wife out of town for a couple days. I am trying to convince the neighbor to come up by us Friday after he is done with work. He has a friend from HS that lives where we are going...so that might be the key to getting him to take off of work, and take a break from work on the duplex.



dirtyd: it is hard sometimes when we are in our group of friends..hard being, I am the one that is hard. I catch them sometimes throwing glances at each other and I know others have seen it...wondering...what is going on between those two. Wondering what others are thinking when they see these two connect. All the other aspects you mentioned...some of them right on...

I am sure she tells him some things...and not others. The same goes for me. I hope to have something sooner than later to report to everyone.
Thanks for the kind works and the encouragement.
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#596 Posted: 9 Feb 2010 03:43
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Allen as always your updates are very much appreciated. They have provided insight not only to those who are currently cucked or want to be's to those of us who are dating hotwives. I am also sure your sharing has helped many others thinking of taking these wonderful steps. You are very blessed as well as Erika to embrace this new life. Hopefully soon she and her BF will be able to step out more as the couple they are in a group or on a date. I am sure since this has taken off she is looking more radiant.
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#597 Posted: 9 Feb 2010 16:10 · Edited by: Fred Jones
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Allen-
When they're together, in public, most of the people around who know them are wondering if there is "something going on" between them. A very few will already know that there is. You're friend is no doubt loyal to you, but he is still a man and we WILL brag about our conquests, even if only to a few select buddies. We just gotta. It's in the chromosones. So, say, maybe 5 percent of your friends already know your wife is cheating on you thinking that you're too weak to do anything about it or just too dumb to notice. Additionally, maybe that many more that you don't know are watching them or you and thinking the same thing having been told "the secret" in confidence by your neighbor's friends. Meanwhile, as the facts slowly percolate out, the rumors have already started. Part of your fun now is wondering how many of the guys at work or sitting near you at the bar are imagining your wife getting royally plowed and imagining themselves doing the plowing.

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#598 Posted: 9 Feb 2010 20:53
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Waiting intently as always to hear how your situation progresses.
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#599 Posted: 10 Feb 2010 07:46
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fred jones hit it right on the head. you have to start to work out what your responce will be cause there will be someone who will want to be the first to tell you. i was more into the hotwife thing (wanting to share her but still have her myself) and it sounds like you want the same thing to share her but not be left out of the loop. the cuckold lifestyle sounds fun in a part time way, but dont think you want to lose out on the having this bee-ute-tif-full lady laying next to you sharing her hot story and taking her for yourself.. ps erika dont think a topless woman with a paint brush cant help with a duplex
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#600 Posted: 11 Feb 2010 15:52 
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Hopefully soon she and her BF will be able to step out more as the couple they are in a group or on a date. I am sure since this has taken off she is looking more radiant.


I certainly hope so. They did one night go have a couple drinks after he was done bowling. I know she and he enjoyed it. She has in fact become more radiant. Her attitude and self confidence has never been higher.


Quoting: Fred Jones
Allen-
When they're together, in public, most of the people around who know them are wondering if there is "something going on" between them. A very few will already know that there is. You're friend is no doubt loyal to you, but he is still a man and we WILL brag about our conquests, even if only to a few select buddies. We just gotta. It's in the chromosones. So, say, maybe 5 percent of your friends already know your wife is cheating on you thinking that you're too weak to do anything about it or just too dumb to notice. Additionally, maybe that many more that you don't know are watching them or you and thinking the same thing having been told "the secret" in confidence by your neighbor's friends. Meanwhile, as the facts slowly percolate out, the rumors have already started. Part of your fun now is wondering how many of the guys at work or sitting near you at the bar are imagining your wife getting royally plowed and imagining themselves doing the plowing.


I am pretty sure that some people think something is going on between them, but not sure how far they have actually gone. One person in particular we thing is very aware that something is going on. Has he told anyone else...maybe. I know for me, I want to tell someone, but know that I can't. Thats why I love this forum...I get to tell and share.

As far as our friends knowing...I think that they would go with the " I am to dumb to notice "...but then again they all know that I am very sexual and might enjoy my wife fucking another man. I can say without doubt, that she has attracted more men to her since this has begun. Her attitude and confidence shows...and attracts. I love it...as does she.


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Waiting intently as always to hear how your situation progresses


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[quote=dirtyd369369]fred jones hit it right on the head. you have to start to work out what your responce will be cause there will be someone who will want to be the first to tell you. i was more into the hotwife thing (wanting to share her but still have her myself) and it sounds like you want the same thing to share her but not be left out of the loop. the cuckold lifestyle sounds fun in a part time way, but dont think you want to lose out on the having this bee-ute-tif-full lady laying next to you sharing her hot story and taking her for yourself.. ps erika dont think a topless woman with a paint brush cant help with a duplex


My first repsonse would be some sort of try at humor. I am always joking around and taking things lightly. I have mentioned before that I would see our situation as more a hotwife with a splash of cuckolding. Its very much...my time, his time, and our time.

By the way...I think the topless painting is a great idea. I will ask her to check out the posts and see what she thinks. Thanks for the idea


Today: As of this morning my wife will be broken for a few days. So that means the weekend is a mostly not going to be very exciting. I did however tell my wife that "just because the roller coaster is broken, you don't close down the whole theme park"..."is the log ride open?" She didn't agree to having the log ride open...but the mouth ride might be. WEEEE!!!!
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