Quoting: smallpeniskevin1
First, I studied Japanese in college. Then, I lived in Japan for three years and married a japanese women.
DCG:
So did I, and have spoken it quite fluently for more than a decade. I lived in Japan for 4 years, and have spent the past 15 years living with and socialising with a huge range of Japanese people both in Japan, and here in my own country of Australia.
KEVIN wrote:
You can attribute the Edo period Japanese culture to contemporary culture if you like, but you are wrong.
DCG:
I was merely highlighting the fact that Japan is certainly not morally superior to Western nations, nor more virtuous. Having said that, I'm not suggesting that it is any worse either. I perceived that you were looking at Japan and the Japanese through rosy coloured glasses, and felt that was a distorted depiction of that country and its people. Sex and sexuality in Japan has had the same coloured past it has enjoyed in western nations. Sex and sexuality however, are not treated with the same guilt and moral baggage bestowed upon us in many western nations. Sex, I believe, is viewed in a healthier, more natural light by the Japanese...and providing nobody gets hurt, and no interpersonal relationships are negatively affected, many tend to often turn a blind eye to things of a sexual nature.
Japanese society and individuals ARE a paradox, in many ways.
Kevin wrote:
I am intricately involved in Japanese culture and have a large extended family I communicate with other there.
DCG:
So have I been, for a decade and a half !
Kevin wrote:
I fear your fantasy is clouding your understanding of Japanese culture. You are also attributing your perception to the culture.
DCG:
Fear not Kevin...I live my life with my eyes wide open, and my brain in gear. I call things as I see them and experience them....and not, distorted by some imagined reality.
Kevin, I believe that a majority of Japanese people DO NOT cheat, HOWEVER with a population of 120 million, even a few percent of them cheating is a staggering number! * You'd be horrified if you knew how many Japanese wives I communicate with online in Japanese, on adult sex sites, who are seeking sex-friends and liasons with foreign guys. I had a Japanese girlfriend throughout the time I lived in Japan, lived in a conservative rural area and held a job in a prefectural office...so I didn't fool around. Having said that, even there, I had opportunities to fool around with married Japanese women, who came onto me. Once again, the majority didn't...but, it happened from time to time. And I'm no Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt !
Kevin wrote:
After living there for 3 years and having become part of a Japanese family and community I can say that they are more moral and family oriented than america's so -called christian culture ever has been. I do not want to ruin your fantasy, but I will claim this as true.
DCG:
In my experience, living in the rural area I lived in, I'd have to agree with that observation. However, in metropolitan areas like Tokyo and Osaka, were anonymity reigns supreme...I know that there are many Japanese husbands and wives, who maintain secret sex lives. Even the Japanese themselves are well aware enough of the epidemic of sexliess marriages and affairs, that it's acknowledged as being a social phenomenon. In that light, I think that Japanese society in the larger cities and metropolitan areas has changed....from the ways of old Japan, morally and otherwise. While family life in the Japanese rural areas has also changed, the breakdown of the family doesn't appear to have been so dramatic as in the city areas. Japan is not what it used to be.
YOU WROTE:
There is no more cheating in Japan than in the USA or any other country.
DCG:
Though certainly, nor is there any less of it.
Kevin wrote:
To attribute this one aspect to being Japanese cuilture was absurd. I say this again even with DSG's foolish rebuttal.
DCG:
Get back to me in another decade Kevin, and tell me if you still see Japan and its society through the same rosy coloured glasses that you see it through today. Over time, you'll learn one thing Kevin...very little is what it appears, in Japan. It's always wise to look below the surface, and get to the bottom of what's actually going on. Don't take things at face value...
Kevin wrote:
DCG- english has words for that too. If your proof is dictionary words, than you are making a fallacious argument.
DCG:
I was merely pointing out that the fact that cheating WAS actually evident in Japanese society, long ago, led to such words being integrated into the language....just as they were in our languages. You appeared to be living in denial that there was any cheating going on in Japan, and that the Japanese were somehow so virtuous and splendid moral creatures that they did not cheat. I was simply highlighting that you were wrong, if you believed that.
YOU WROTE:
It is even more foolish to say that cheating is part of the Japanese culture in a greater aspect than say the USA. That is simply not true. Both cultures are fairly equal in that aspect as most cultures are. It is not culture that dictates cheating is the individuals. Japan has no more cheaters than any other country.
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