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ninto
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# Posted: 19 Apr 2008 23:53:50
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Hi Lisa,
No, unfortunately the picture isn't me - I wish I had that kind of body!
I have a devious idea as to how you can achieve your double penetration idea without too much difficulty.
You'll need three things - the list is rather self explanatory:
1. Condom
2. Topical anasthetic (sometimes sold as a product made to make you last a long time!)
3. Viagra/Cialis
The Viagra is because if you pick the right products, he won't feel a thing but will need to be able to stay hard!
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sillyfemdude
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# Posted: 21 Apr 2008 22:48:52
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Lisa,
Between laundry baskets and dresser drawers, if your children are 8 yrs or older, there's little chance that they don't know about your husband's choice for underwear. Have you thought about how the feminization of their father may affect their own self images?
May I suggest an alternative to panties - men's underwear that is very panty like, such as microfiber, polyester boxer-briefs without fly? They still have men's looking waist bands but feel just like panties.
Silly
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tinyguy102
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# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 00:12:45
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Hi Lisa,
Thank you so much for the posts. I read it a few days ago and enjoyed it completely. Since then I have have been trying to formalize some questions that I would like to hear your answer on. I thank your openness and your offer to answer questions. I can only speculate on your many adventures that you elluded to!
1.Concerning David and Mark's interaction- In social situations, is there any dominating aspect that carries over from the bedroom. Examples are; if D and M were to get into a debate, would it be clear that M would be the one to back down. If you all dine out, would D automatically get the head of the table? If the two families go someplace for the weekend, does D's desires trump M's? The last slice of pizza: who gets it? I guess what I am asking is that since D took M's wife right from under him, does he now accept a submissive role always?
2. Taking another man's cock- I have heard, on this site and others, that women who are initially hesitant to cucking their husbands, change on a dime once another man is inside her. Some women have described that their feelings (sexual and otherwise) toward their husbands crossed a threshold once another man shot inside them that they could never return from. You described how you now deny your husband sex for years now. Is this a result of your disinterest in him satisfying you with his dick, a humiliation device, or has the way you viewed him as a sexual creature completely changed once he gave up/lost exclusivity toward your pussy? With options like these Im getting a feeling of some mixture, but could you please select one as a standout?
3.Sex not equaling love- Since you like it big, and have left your marital bed (or kicked M out, whichever:}) how would you feel if M decide to start pursuing other women with whom to have sex? He would of course follow the same hygiene/descreetness rules of your engagements. Try not to involve whether he may in reality want to or not. I would just like to know if an intergral part of the adventure is not only your infidelity, but also his emasculation and his surrender of his masculinity.
4.Strapons- Tried them? Thinking about it?
Thanks again! I hope these are enough straightforward for you. Congradulations btw for your sexual freedom!
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Lisalovesbig
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# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 07:44:26
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Tiny
1) I can not stress enough that our lifestyle does not translate to the public world at all. Mark and David interact in real life, as any neighbor/buddy would. Mark's submissiveness really only exists in the bedroom. Also, David did not "take M's wife from under him". Ours was a conscious choice.
2) I fully expect some day to resume having intercourse with Mark. Not having intercourse for about 2 years is part of the role play, not a reflection of his manhood, so to speak. Yes, I like big. But toys can be big too-lol. Truth is I never have had a vaginal only orgasm with Mark- batteries are needed. But batteries + a cock can equal some amazing orgasms. Regardless of the cuck lifestyle, according to "experts" less than half of all women can orgasm from simple vaginal penetration. And while I have had vaginal only intercourse with David, it is not the norm. Bottom line is I still view Mark as an attractive sexual being. Knowing he has an erection and/or watching him masturbate knowing he is turned on by watching me often is what drives me over the top. I am anything but disinterested in his penis, but our sexuality simply plays out different than intercourse at this point.
3) Here is the thing with our relationship at it exists now. If Mark (or I) went to the other and said the cuck relationship was no longer working, we would move on. If he said "I need actual intercourse" I would have no problem making adjustments. Remember, our origins into this lifestle started with partner sharing.
Interesting that there seems to be several overtones to this discussion that basically equate masculinity with putting a penis into a vagina. I don't consider Mark a fem. There is more to being feminine than wearing makeup and having boobs. There is more to being a man than sticking a penis into a hole. Certainly some of the sexual play is more on the feminine side, but my guess in most married sex lives there is some play on each partners side that crosses normal gender roles, or ventures into the taboo. If you met Mark in real life- as a friend, a player on the sports teams he plays on, at work as a customer or supplier, coach of your child's sports team, etc. you would consider him the all-american man. We just happen to have some behind closed door fetishes. Ours might be a bit more extreme than licking toes or being a peeping tom, but what we participate in sexually does not make me more of a man, or him less of one.
4) Strapons-yes. But we did this years ago. Every man I have ever been with sexually has enjoyed some form of anal play being done to them. I don't think it's talked about in public circles because of the bi phobia, but anal penetration for a man can be erotic just as for a woman.
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Lisalovesbig
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# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 07:50:44
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Silly fem-
I read what I posted earlier and mis-represented some thing. I did indeed say I threw out all his normal undies and panties are all he wears. That was when we first got into it I did throw them all out. Soon after, we realized the impractical nature of this decision. Could he play sports and not have it ever noticed by the guys? Nature of sports/movement means sometimes you see under the shorts, etc. Going to the gym, heading to a friends house to go swimming, etc. We camp a lot as a family, and would not be appropriate to change in the tent wearing red silk panties.
So now, he wears panties unless a situation like the above comes into play. We hae a fireproof cabinet in our closet. Originally we got it for records such as wills, etc. Now it stores sex toys/videos as well. And is also where Marks panties reside. That way, if the kids get into our drawers they wont ask why that green frilly thong is in daddies drawer.
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tinyguy102
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# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 18:37:45
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Thank you Lisa. I really appreciated your reply.
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sillyfemdude
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# Posted: 23 Apr 2008 05:21:13
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Lisa,
Thank you for your reply.
Silly
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sillyfemdude
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# Posted: 23 Apr 2008 14:59:25
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Lisa,
This is a link to the style of men's briefs I mentioned. I don't know if you're in the states near a WalMart, but they offer these:
http://www.lifeunderwear.com/euro.asp#
Some of these are cotton, but some are microfiber and feel very panty like.
Silly
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ninto
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# Posted: 1 May 2008 23:13:03
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Lisa,
How is your lifestyle progressing? Have you been continuing with the fun?
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peakmb
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# Posted: 2 May 2008 00:11:09
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Lisa,
I think this is one of the most thoughtful posts I have seen on this site. I'm not even sure why myself really but your story certainly touched me deeply.
I have a few questions if you are still ok with them.
1. Did you consult with Mark and David as equals before you decided to post this series.
2. How do you draw the line / deal with conflict between dominant sessions (where you deny Mark) and real life ( where I assume you consult with him as an equal).
3. Are any of your other friends / family aware of your relationship. It must be hard for both of you not to confide in someone else sometimes.
4. Finally, have you tried a hollow dildo that Mark could wear over his penis. They often come with vibration so you could control his feeling as you made love using his 'bigger' endowment. A special treat maybe ?
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subiam
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# Posted: 2 May 2008 04:49:03
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Lisa,
I just wanted to say how nice it was to read something that seems genuine and not some wanker's fantasy. I agree with your philosophy that couples should be able to talk about this so I sent a copy of your posts to my wife to read. I think she'll enjoy them though this all just fantasy for us.
subiam
Submissive husband to Queen-T
Locked in NeoSteel CB.
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Lisalovesbig
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# Posted: 6 May 2008 08:18:41
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Ninto-
Play has been slow lately. Seems between the three of us, one has been out of town for business lately. Hate it when life gets in the way of sex 
Subiam-
Thanks for the compliments. There are enough "wanker" stories around, and even I can enjoy some fictional erotica. But I just was in a sharing/discussing mood, not a simple write dirty words mood. And if fantasy works for you and your wife, great. Don't feel bad you don't have more.
Peak MB-
1) Truth be told I did not consult with either prior to actually posting. We all were aware of the site, but not until after I posted did I inform either. For the record, both have found it interesting to see other responses to our lifestyles. But probably not as much as me.
2) For us real life and sex play are easy to distinguish. Basically, anything involving our sexuality stays behind closed doors. We kiss, show affection, etc. in real life. If you think about it, most people's sex life is private. I mean, couples might have adult conversations with friends that is purely friends talking, and we do that. But actual sexual acts, preferences, etc. for most couples is a private issue as it is for us. Honestly, it's not difficult to separate sex from the rest of our lives.
3) Nobody other than the three of us knows a thing, and thats the way it should be. Any husband/wife that has fetishes or sexual preferences that are taboo are probably better off not sharing them. I don't feel a void because I dont share my sexuality with my family. lol, in fact, that would be odd. "Hey mom, I like a big penis, how about you" ewwwww. lol
As for friends, I can engage in girl talk without revealing too much. And I don't feel a need to talk about things more, just as I guess my friends probably have hidden kinks or sexual escapades they don't share with me.
4) Tried the strap on thing with Mark. But really I'm not a big fan of artificial penis's. I love a toy for a clit, but a fake penis really does not do a lot for me. I like the real thing!
Finally, curious as to what you mean that this post "touched you deeply". Could you explian?
~~~Lisa
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Lisalovesbig
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# Posted: 6 May 2008 08:32:03
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Ninto-
Forgot to say that as a result of this post, I finally decided to take the plunge (no pun intended) into pee play. It did not involve David, just Mark and I, and it was relatively tame. Basically, a few Saturdays ago our kids were both gone for a few hours. I put on a pair of panties, and wet them. Then had Mark wear them the next few hours. Then I gave him a sort of hand job- more of a rub job- through the wet panties- but stopped short of letting him cum. Knowing pee play was a fantasy of him, I teased him with it, but would not let him come that way. After teasing him almost to the point of orgasm, I stopped and took them off and put in washer immediately. I then went to watch TV and told him he could jack off if he wanted and left him alone.
I was not grossed out by it, and the humiliation factor of him having to wear wet panties, had desired mental results. But it was not a turn on for me. Knowing he was being driven wild was a turn on, but pee play itself was not the main factor if that makes sense. Probably a bit different than many cucks whose wives could care less if they are turned on. Much different in that I love to know I can drive him wild sexually without fucking him. Very powerful/confident feeling really.
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peakmb
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# Posted: 6 May 2008 09:54:55
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Lisa,
Thanks for your reply. I was just trying to say that your thread is so genuine that your relationship really hit me at an emotional level. You seem to have a relationship with your husband that many of us here would also like to have but know we probably never will. I think all three of you are very lucky to have found each other, and have shown great understanding in developing your relationship with each other. I hope you continue to tell us how it develops from here too.
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oedi500
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# Posted: 8 May 2008 23:58:23
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Hi Lisa,
Wow, you have an exciting, sexy story to tell! I have a bit of a different question here, from the wannabe faction of this website. Your description of your husband reminds me of myself, in that I'm doing well enough outwardly and I'm turned on by being emasculated (I feel like the two are related).
Unlike your husband, though, I'm not married and I'm already interested in cuckolding. I'm 30, old enough to be getting serious about getting married. I'm not having trouble attracting candidates for the job, but given that I have a pretty firmly-entrenched cuckold/humiliation fetish in place, I'm not sure quite what to look for.
I'd love to share a sex life more or less exactly like yours with a woman, and I'd like to know what sort of character traits do you have that make this lifestyle work for you? It sounds like your cuckolding evolved more as a mutual thing- any advice to those of us who are interested in introducing this to your partners?
Thanks for any reply, and for the wildly hot description of your sex life!
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Lisalovesbig
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# Posted: 9 May 2008 22:34:21
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Oedie500-
I honestly don't know if I can answer that question. And I don't know that you can translate certain real life personality characteristics into someone who may be a kinky woman. For example, I am type A personality, but would not want to assume that Type A's are more prone to liking big cocks (lol). And since, as you pointed out, our lifestyle evolved, I am not sure how one would look for it going into things.
So I don't know if you can look at publically visable characterists of someone and predict their fetish's. I would say that to carry this out it probably requires a very sexually confident, expressive, and experimenting individual. Does that mean she would be successful and confident in real life? Not sure. Maybe the girl with the tatoo and blue streaked hair who works at the video store is more prone to wild sex.
Sorry I can't help you more on giving you tips on what to look for. However, I might have some other thoughts that help in small ways. One place to look might be swinger sites. There are a few, and you can put your story out there and see if you get any bites. Be careful though, you don't want to force love just cause someone shares the same kinks. I personally think love has to come first, and then you adapt and grow with your sex. But if you will require cuckolding as part of marriage, then perhaps it is something to look into.
Also, if it is highly important in determining your future marriage possibilities, then when you do start dating don't wait too long to spring it on her. Seems to me you would not want to waste too much time with someone who might not have a trait that is a must have for you. True, you risk her thinking you are a freak if you spring it on her too soon, but unless its someone you work with or something, you won't have to see her again.
I would also ask you to really evaluate if this is a must have? What if she were not willing to cuck/humiliate you, but would be a swinger? What if you found a soul mate personally who wanted nothing to do with outside sexual interests? What if she was willing to carry out certain fantasies to a point, but not with others ? (as an example, maybe she would demand you wear womens cloths at home and clean her after you cum, but did not want a boyfriend or anything else outside your marriage)?
Again, I am sorry I can't give you any great nugget of information. My situation was much different. Even today if I were dating, I would not enter it demanding I found someone into the lifestyle. The cuck thing for me is a part of my life, not really a lifestyle if that makes sense.
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Lisalovesbig
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# Posted: 13 May 2008 18:01:09
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This weekend decided to try something new. Kind of based on an idea from Ninto above about a hollow dildo harness thing. Went to a sex store and bought a rubber dildo (about 9" long) that was hollow in it. I had to get a new strap as it would not fit in the one we have. Anyway, the idea was to "have sex with Mark" again. Of course, we had discussions about it, him under the pretense that he was literally going to fuck me. I won't bore you with those though...
I told him on Friday evening that I wanted Saturday to be special. Told him I wanted to go out on a date, and get a hotel, and that we were going to have sex. I told him I wanted it to be special. Saturday evening Mark treated me to dinner at a great local fondue place, and we headed toward the hotel. When I got there, the bed actually had rose pedals on it, he had pre-arranged it. That alone almost made me decide to scrap my plan and jump on him right there. But I resisted.
We did all the normal foreplay stuff, but when it was time to fuck, I pulled out the dildo harness thing and told Mark to put it on. The look on his face at first was dissapointment, but quickly he resigned himself to doing it. No questions were even asked, which actually surprised me. I was dissapointed, however, in that I was not able to cum with simple penetration of the toy. With bigger penises or vaginal toys I can sometimes cum without clitoral stimulation. I think my mind was playing tricks on me because I knew it was not a real penis inside me.
Mark, however, came inside the toy. There was enough friction/movement of his penis inside the toy to get him off. Dissapointed that he came and I did not, I first continued to make him fuck me in efforts to cum. Then I decided I would finish myself off with my bullett toy, and masturbated as I asked him to clean the toy out with his tongue. Interesting to see him eat the cum from inside a penis! lol
While I was not able to orgasm from the experience directly, it certainly was a great mind fuck for us both. Later Mark would describe it like being a kid at christmas and seeing the biggest present with all sorts of hopes and ideas of what it was, but when you open it it was a tie. He admitted he was excited about getting back to fucking me, but also admitted it was such a mental turn on to have been played like he was. Talk about conflicts! lol
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ninto
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# Posted: 21 May 2008 00:45:21
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Lisa,
I'm glad you tried that idea! Isn't the mindfuck incredible?
I don't want to lecture, but the reason I suggested specifically what I did was because of the very issues you described.
Most women find it difficult to cum from penetration alone with just a toy, as the warmth and flexibility you get from a real cock is second to nothing else. However, obviously you wouldn't want him to be able to really appreciate the feeling of getting to have a woman such as yourself, as you're just using him as a live dildo! This is why the topical anasthetic is necessary. You can buy it at most sex shops, and the effect is quite strong. Just put some onto his hard cock, pour a bit into the condom and then roll it on - he'll feel very little, or maybe nothing and you'll get all the fun!
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ninto
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# Posted: 21 May 2008 00:47:09
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And if you go that route...you can do it again! You can tell him that you were just kidding last time, but that this time he would definitely get to fuck you himself - make a point of saying "no dildos" to lead him in that hopeful direction that you'll get to fuck with later on ;)
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