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Sinbad8192

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I am a happily married man, 37 years old, and for a few years I have enjoyed the idea of sharing my sweet sexy wife, and a bit of cuckolding too.

I have worked this into our sex life, picking porn for us to watch together while we play in bed and talking dirty about wanting to watch her try the kind of things she sees on screen (usually mmf) to which she indulged my fantasy.

The other night I asked her cold and she said no and the reaction was that I don't love her and that it would be cheating if she "went off and slept with another man".

Any advice on the topic would be much appreciated.

I have added a couple of pics of her below.
norwegian

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That's a typical first reaction

She will not agree to anything before you manage to convince her that you are totally and only interessted in her getting involved with others...

The one thing that works is...time...talk...show appreciation every time she talk to a guy...time...make her feel sexy....time....always show how horney it all gets you....time....time...and more time...

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You may find that talking to her at the right time of her monthly cycle will help. When she's feeling horny and receptive. Other than that I agree with Norwegian, take your time and make it clear that you don't want to relax with other women. Good luck!
Sinbad8192

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Thanks for the advice chaps. I am wary about raising it again because of the strength of the reaction, but it is too much of an exciting thought not to raise it, just in case she has more thoughts or changes her mind.

The idea of kissing her, tongue in her mouth while another guys has his tongue or cock in her pussy is so sexy and I think she wouldnt have too much trouble finding a guy as a sweet sexy wife.

ps: i hope yuo like the pics
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Hi Sinbad, while most ladies can be influenced or persuaded to have extra relational sex, some cant. In the case of many others, if you get into cuckolding with them it may well have negative consequences for you. (For example could you live full time with her in bitch mode, or angry, or worse disdain for you mode?)

If you wish to proceed in light of that, you will fiind lots of different advice on here. Assuming you cherish her, being married to her, and having her think you are special....Then try to understand and internalize her objections instead of trying to just overcome them. Then even more importantly, EVERY fear or concern or consequence she expresses should be discussed with her, internalized by you, and considered carefully. You can probably do this, and have fun, and grow with her through it. Consideration, empathy, and of course communication are key.

Just keep in mind, this is a precious jewel you can lose if you screw this up, and that if you go far enough along the path your influence and control can diminish. Good luck, I dont mean to be buzz*******, but your post remisterated with me, in that it implied your marriage is good and you are sweet on her.
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I tried for many years to get my wife to go out and have sex with another man. She was hurt and did not understand why I would want this. All she will do is sometimes use it during sex by masturbating with her fingers or a dildo and while I hold her and tell her to enjoy her lovers big cock. she will even suck on the dildo first before putting it inside her. Other than that she will only let me masturbate and kiss her ass. So I settle for sucking guys off when she is away and showing them nude pics of her
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she is very sexy!

take your time. she will come to it!
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I'm in the same predicament. Sinbad. It's been three years since I shared my desire with my wife. She likes to fantasize in bed with toys but still refuses to do it for real. For now we enjoy the fantasy in the bedroom. Hopefully that will change someday.
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Out of the two girlfriends I've had that cuckolded me (actually am still with one of them that cuckolds me) there reaction was "no" for quite awhile. The first one was no for 2 years, my current one was no for almost 4 years. Norwegian and queen b are right on as far as my expiriences. Once they come around though, they REALLY come around. My current woman, after cuckolding me for the first time, fucked 5 different guys within 3 months. She keeps expanding her cuckolding fantasies to the point of wanting to watch me get "throat fucked" by one of her lovers, wanting to see me get beat up by a lover of hers and wanting to bring a lover along on our honeymoon! Now I know not eveyone is into the scenarios I listed, but use them as a guide to see how much a woman can change her mind from the original "no" they give us!
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subhub:
So I settle for sucking guys off when she is away and showing them nude pics of her

thats just about where i am in my marriage. i am trying to meet guys who will pretend to fuck my wife while i suck their cock.
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Best advice is listen to her.
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Sinbad8192

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Thank you for the advie and help.

We had a nother discussion a few days after I initally told her and the adverse reaction seemed to have cooled a bit. She still said she couldnt really understand and said the fantasies, the dirty chat in bed etc were ok but that she wouldnt do anything for real which is a big change to the shock she had at first.

I am hoping if the other elements, the porn with some wild mmf or sharing scenes (marc dorcel stuff is amazing for that) and the stories and chat in bed will help and sometime I may be able to try again for more.

I will keep you posted and I hope you liked the pics! Got more to share if anyone wants them.
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Would definitely like more pics! She is a goddess...
Sinbad8192

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A few more pics of her as requested.
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Sinbad8192:
Any advice on the topic would be much appreciated.

1) Never give up hope. The human mind is changing and what we reject today might not tomorrow,
2) Do not obsess. Besides cuckolding game, there are many other things that you can have fun with your wife. If by the time she refuses cucking you, feeds her eroticism with other things to keep alive your erotic bond.
3) Learn both. Let's face it: the cuckold game is not among the best understood things of the human mind. There are too many prejudices about it, but also real risks. Study about cuckolding game and ask her to join you in this adventure. This no guarantee that she will finally accept, but there is the assurance that the decision you make will have been sustained.
4) Lover her. All cuckold fans know that the cuckold game has nothing to do with lack of love, but rather the opposite. However, it's very common for a wife whose husband has asked her to cuckold him, has doubts about his love. Well, just make sure she knows you really love her. Pamper her, pleased her, worships her. Finally, is what fascinates to cuckolds, is not it?
5) Work on the drawbacks. For example, if she thinks you will use the game as an excuse to be unfaithful, give to her assurances that it will not happen (may sound radical and unnecessary, but maybe you're willing to use chastity tube, just an example).

Anyway, I wish you luck, a girl as beautiful as your wife deserves to be filled with pleasure
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Tool me 5 years of off and on talking to get it to happen. Make it about your relationship not her fucking other people. It wasn't easy been 11 years and she plays a few times a year, last year her BF got her to try BBC.
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My lovely wife has been saying no for over 25 years. But she has had a few affairs, some I know about, but she doesn't want to have it spoken of. I have arranged for her to meet men at bars and gotten her to dance with men. But gettting her to cuckold me in her presence, she refuses and acts like a virgin. Any suggestions to how to get her to share the experiences with me. She is very good looking, tall, slim, lot's of class. Men make over her everywhere we go. She is very hot looking.
Sinbad8192

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How time flies. I thought I would check this old thread but I had not idea was was almost a year ago I suggested the idea of sharing with her. Unfortunately nothing really has changed and given more time ot think it over I think it is the wrong time, with young kids, to be trying this kind of thing.

Things have been good fun on the fantasy side of things. These pictures are from last week where i got carried away and had my sweet wife doing a few things that made me question whether or not she enjoyed the idea of extra fun for her. I expect it is just wishful thinking, but I would be interested to know what people think?

PS: as always, I hope you like the pics
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Sinbad8192: Each case is different, so I can only tell you about mine and the reamister she said 'No' initially...I slowly learned that due to her very jealous nature she felt that the real reamister I was trying to get her to cuckold me was that eventually I would try to get her into swinging so I could be justified in fucking other women. The most difficult thing was convincing her that it was NOT the case, that I had absolutely no interest whatsoever in fucking any other woman!...that I was ONLY into HER pleasure and the extra pleasure she would receive from other male partners...once I was able to convince her (and it took a long time!) she started to ease up on the 'No' and then it became a 'Maybe...if the circumstances were just right and I was sure you would not be angry with me after I did it".
Eventually it went from that to her testing my reactions by telling me she had gone out to lunch with a male co-worker who was coming on to her...just the two of them. It was only a humble start, but I showered her with affection and encouraged her to go out with him at night on a sort of 'date'. She came home and told me she gave him a hand job in the car after going to Happy Hour after work one night...again I showered her with affections. She also mentioned that his cock was almost about 8" and it reminded her of an old boyfriend she had before me, who used to send her into orbit when he fucked her. Things finally graduated into full sex at the co-worker guy's apartment and I treated her like a queen following that confession. I also eagerly ate her pussy when she got home from the date at almost 5:30 in the morning and told me she had fucked him...3 times! She was from that time then convinced that I was serious and the lifestyle developed from those humble beginnings. I had been made into a willing cuckold and I loved my wife for it. When she saw the positive reaction in me, she immediately became interested in finding other sex partners and preferably some that would allow me to participate or at least watch them making love. It has been a long trip, but well worth the results!
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Sinbad8192: Each case is different, so I can only tell you about mine and the reamister my wife said 'No' initially...I slowly learned after several 'No's' that due to her very jealous nature she felt that the real reamister I was trying to get her to cuckold me was that eventually I would try to get her into swinging so I could be justified in fucking other women. The most difficult thing was convincing her that it was NOT the case, that I had absolutely no interest whatsoever in fucking any other woman!...that I was ONLY into HER pleasure and the extra pleasure she would receive from other male partners...once I was able to convince her (and it took a long time!) she started to ease up on the 'No' and then it became a 'Maybe...if the circumstances were just right and I was sure you would not be angry with me after I did it". She admitted the idea turned her on but was afraid she would loose me if I could not handle the jealousy issues. Again lots and lots of reassurances from me!
Eventually it went from that to her testing my reactions by telling me she had gone out to lunch with a male co-worker who was coming on to her...just the two of them...I guess it was her way of taking baby steps at first. It was only a humble start, but I showered her with affection and encouraged her to go out with him at night on a sort of 'date'. She came home and told me she gave him a hand job in the car after going to Happy Hour after work one night...again I showered her with affections. She also mentioned that his cock was almost about 8" and it reminded her of an old boyfriend she had before me, who used to send her into orbit when he fucked her. Again showered her with affections, took her out to Red Lobster to celebrate our progress. Things finally graduated into full sex at the co-worker guy's apartment and I treated her like a queen following that confession. I also eagerly ate her pussy when she got home from the date at almost 5:30 in the morning and told me she had finally fucked him...3 times! She was from that time then convinced that I was serious and the lifestyle developed from those humble beginnings. I had been made into a willing cuckold and I loved my wife for it! When she saw the positive reaction in me, (made me hotter than hell with passion for her!) she immediately became interested in finding other sex partners and preferably some that would allow me to participate or at least watch them making love. It has been a long trip, but well worth the results!
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The situation that was described by Juanito is exactly the position I am in with my wife right now. I think she would fuck another man but she is convinced that if she did that I would use that as an excuse to fuck another woman, and no matter what I say she just can not get that out of her head.
Sinbad8192

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Thanks for the advice. I think I am going to have another go at raising the subject with a focus on her pleasure. We had a great sessin at the weekend with her in a crotchless fishnet body stocking touching and playing with some good porn on and lots of me talking dirty and her playing along. The porn was a woman with a couple of hung black guys at a party (I can recommend Marc Dorcel porn BTW, the wife enjoys it very much and it is damn hot). I kept on asking her things like "would you like sucking his bi black cock?" or "would you like being touched and teased like that with people watching?" and she was saying yes to it all, and very wet. I expect I am reading too much into it and she was just indulging me as she does but worth another try I think.

The thought of her in all fours stuff with BBC from both ends in her slutty fishnet bidy stocking had me filling her up!
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Good luck Sinbad it seems like no time since I was in a similar situation.

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I found taking an interest in her clothes and makeup helped as I was able to get my wife to dress more slutty/wear more makeup and thus get more attention from men which helped with any self esteem issues that were holding her back.
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Sinbad8192: My wife has been going with other men for years, getting picked up at parties flirting,kissing and allowing them to openly caress her in front of me, she has been with co-workers, her bosses and casual one night stands. Yet if I made a comment about another woman I would be in the crap, getting heavily rebuked and ignored for days. She knows I have never cheated.
Sinbad8192

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I am hoping I will be able to get my wife to be tempted a little bit. She is still happy to indulge the fantasy in the bedroom with the dirty chat and as you can see from the pictures she indulged me abit putting herself in poses that were so obviously related to my fantasy of sharing her.

I think the biggest hurdle is that she is the sensible type and spends a lot of energy focused on work/family etc. and so sex and fantasies doesn't get as much focus as I would hope. There is light at the end of the tunnel as the kids are a bit older so now weekends away are back on the cards and I wuld say that give more opportunities to push her boundaries. She isnt keen on Amsterdam though, which I had pegged a s agreat place for the special brownies and abundance of sex in the red light district.

Def worth further efforts though.
Sinbad8192

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I am giving things another go. Working on her to try a few new things and sent her this email to see if I can get her into some online fun as a start.

What do you think?

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Subject: Fun things
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 23:07:42 +0100

I thought you might like to see someof the teasing pictures of us that i love taking and looking at. I think they look so sexy and hot andi love seeing you doing some wild and wanton things and looking at the pictures of you playing and knowing you are excited and wanting to show off and tease me is so sexy and i can never get enough of it.

You could see if there any toys or things for tieing up on these sites for a bit of fun.

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I love the idea of the bullet vibrators and using them to tease your clit or even trying one you coudl wear out so we could go out and have some fun.

If you wanted to look at a teasing story you could try here: The hyperlink is visible to registered members only! There might be something you like on that you like as a fantasy you could share.

If you were feeling very naughty you could try here for a bit of inspiration or some fun: The hyperlink is visible to registered members only! it would be hot to watch you do that and see if you like being a naughty wife teasing others. I could kiss and lick you all over while you played and had some fun."
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My situation was much similar to what juanito described. Like most couples we always talked and sometimes role played, or fantasied about her with another man, but nothing ever became of it. If I brought up the subject at the wrong time, she seemed to be annoyed, but other times, she would talk about it on a fantasy level.

After a few years of getting nowhere, I put an ad in a local swinger magazine looking for a male to join us. I surprised her with the ad when the timing was right and I knew she would be open to the idea. The ad turned her on and we fucked like crazy the rest of the night.

A few weeks went by and the mail started coming in. It was back in the days of snail mail ! Again when the mood was right, we'd open the mail and fuck our brains out. We did narrow all the replies down to one or two guys, but when it get close to setting up a meeting, she got cold feet and nothing ever happened. Once it became real, she had all the fears and concerns that all the others have mentioned.

Afterward, days turned into months, and years. I couldn't get any farther with her. We always have had a great relationship and we could always talk about it if the right mood was there, but there seemed to be no way she could go any farther. I really couldn't push her into it, our relationship isn't like that, and bringing up the subject from time to time was getting old. I kind of lost hope, realizing the idea of my wife fucking other men might have to stay in the "spank bank".

One day when I was feeling horny I decided to take another step. I put an ad on Craig's for a guy to seduce my wife. After weeding through all the losers that replied, I finally found the kind of guy I was looking for. A guy that understood that nothing might happen, but he was willing to take it slow and put in the effort.

Now before everyone goes off on a rant thinking I had set her up. It wasn't like that at all. I simply created the opportunity for her to slowly explore, and slow it was !

The first meeting was in a local bar where my wife and I simply ran into an "old friend" of mine from work. It went well, at least there was some attraction between them. They had one dance together, just a quick simple dance, and he seemed to know that was as far as she was comfortable with. He had a quick take and left. That night and the following days, she was looking for reassurance from me that a little flirting was OK. She enjoyed the attention of another man, she just wanted to make sure I was OK with it.

After a few days went by, and she was feeling comfortable, so I had our new friend email me, saying it was nice running into me and meeting my wife, he had a great time and that we should meet up again sometime. I showed my wife the email and I could tell that she liked him, but she wasn't she if it was OK. This gave us the opportunity to have "the talk" and we could at least meet him for a take one night. I didn't want to push her at all, I knew she could only take baby steps, but she seemed excited about it. We did spend the next couple of days fucking ourselves silly though.

Our second meeting with him went great. We met him at the same local bar for a take. My wife and him had a great time, laughing and flirting. She kept looking to me to see if it was all OK, and I could see that sparkle in her that I hadn't seen in years. They danced the night away getting closer and closer as the night went on. As she got more comfortable, he got more bolder, like any guy trying to pick up a woman, slowly starting to feel her up, but not being to aggressive. This guy knew what he was doing, not going too far to make her uncomfortable. Eventually they were in a deep passionate, lustful kiss on the dance floor. Again, he had one more take with us and called it a night, giving my wife a deep kiss good bye right in front of me at the table.

I remember at the time, I was annoyed that he stopped at that point. I thought that it was going to happen that night. Talking to him later, he explained that he thought she had gone far enough and wanted to leave her with a good experience and wanting more. He was right, over the next few days my wife was floating on air, and that old sparkle was back in her eyes all the time.

Throughout the whole experience, all she wanted to know was that it was all OK. It wasn't going to hurt or marriage or relationship. We were now fucking or brains out all the time now. It was bringing us closer. A few hundred bucks in flowers, and a few love notes might have helped too ! We were both having a great time.

In the following days, we got to have more of "the talk", as we both realized that this guy is probably going to fuck her if there was a next time. Now she was filled with excitement and nervousness, but still, every step along the way, she always seemed to want reassurance from me.

A few days later, I had him email us again, "had a great time, lets do that again". Sure enough I get the reaction I was expecting, she was excited and turned on, but still, she went through the "should I, shouldn't I ?" phase. All I did was reassure her that I was OK with anything that might happen, it was up to her. Now she wanted to see him again.

It finally happened the next time we met him, she finally melted into the arms of another man, as his cock sank into her wanting pussy. The details are a whole other story

I realize a few things. One, how fortunate I was in finding a guy that would put in all the effort without any guarantee that anything might actually happen. Two, all I had to do was give her the reassurance that it would make of relationship better, not worse. Three, I wasted allot of time, and years, trying to talk her into it, when all we really needed was the right opportunity to take it slow and talk along the way. Life has been great since !

I've told our story a few times before, but I do want to make it clear, I didn't "set her up" or just throw her at a strange man. I simply created the right atmosphere and opportunity to explore, talk, and let her progress at a pace she felt comfortable with.. She could have stopped at any point if she wanted, but she enjoyed the little baby steps too. Even if it didn't go all the way, we were still closer, having great fantastic sex, and even deeper in love after all those years. Anyway, things did turn out for the best and I can only wish you the same kind of luck !
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Baby steps seem to be a key to success. Another key for me was the first reactions I gave her when she started talking about old boyfriends and whenever she started flirting with other men in front of me. If I would have given her ANY negative vibe or any sign I had a problem with it she would have backed off. Most woman don't want to risk damaging their marriage just for sex. You guys that are wannabes need to give her the right, positive feedback she needs to take the plunge! In our case it worked out. I can tell you guys there is NOTHING hotter than watching your dearly beloved wife spread out underneath another man whose manly cock is TWICE your size pounding your woman's pussy raw, making her bounce like a rag doll and listening to her make desperate sounds like she never ever made with you!! Believe me fellas, it's worth all the patience.
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Excellent point TinyCockWimp !

With every little baby step, my wife allways looked to me to see my responce, looking for feedback. Perhaps she was looking to see if it was OK, just seeking approval in some way. I know any negative responce would have ended it instantly. It was like she was testing me, looking to see if I was OK, each and every step. I went out of my way to make sure that she knew I was OK every single time. I'm not sure if its the right way to say it, but it's like "positive reinpowerment". Each time she tested me, she could take another baby step. Taking a slow approach, letting her "learn her way along", as our relationship only got better, definitely worked for us.

There is definitely some good advise here for all you wanta be Cucks out there !
Sinbad8192

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I cannot resist giving it another go so I sent this email to my wife earlier...

"I think this picture looks so sexy and teasing. It is obvious they are both turned on and having fun.

Would the idea of me tied up and made to watch you watch you do something like this tempt you to try it?

I love you and fancy you so much and get so excited thinking how hot you would look being wild and dirty."

The picture is the one she got. i am hoping she will realise this is all about her and not me wanting other women. Fingers crossed.


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