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belbastone

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Hi J, do you watch IR amateur videos with bbc pounding well white wifes? Search a woman in IR amateur video that is similar to your wife and see it together or u lick her pussy while she's seeing it....
fender412002

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J, don't make the mistake I did and bring it up outside of the bedroom while she's excited. Let her enjoy the fantasy. Don't rush or get greedy because she will sense it, maybe only subco n s c I o u s l y and will pull back. Let her get good and primed.
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Just watched a video that talked about 5 words that speak directly to the sub c o n s c I o u s.

They are: you, free, more, imagine, and your own name.

May be wise to incorporate those into LW...?
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LesM

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Sounds good.

Also include the words: big-black-dingus
dickles

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for J Jones

Start a routine where when ever she meets a BLACK MAN or WOMAN she gets a tingle on her clit.

To get the BLACK MEN to hit on her train her with a need to check out the cock and look then look up at HIM and smile.
swhwwfubbbd

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To J Jones "expressed my wish in reality (meaning whilst in that wide awake state) " we enter in and out of different 'states' all the time.. and realising that can help us to see 'the others' (in particular - our wives) states and their changing nature. Now you can see how the sub con whispering has helped enhance her fantasy / sexual state.. arousal isn't you everyday normal awake state is it - that state is concerned with day to day life / work / safety.
More loving whispers with comfort and security of you needing her to fuck black men leads to greater levels of comfort and safety because it helps you being more comfortable and safe with her.. her comfort and safety of being aroused by black men leads to more comfort and safety in you and her together and more you are together with the comfort of black men the more you reach the highest levels of comfort and safety in your relationship.. happy.. content and free to freely explore this new found comfort.

I'm cycling and building.

You may decide to infrequently and may be only one or two short sessions throw in the negative consequences on your future relationship together IF THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN. (Accompanied with a hiatus in sex and love from you)

Then go back to the safety and comfort of your relationship and your sex fantasy play.

I put my wife in the mood by whispering to go out dancing and going to a particular place to meet black men and with everything I'd done with whispering worked and nature finally took it's rightful course!
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swhwwfubbbd:
with everything I'd done with whispering worked and nature finally took it's rightful course!

I think it would be nice if you'd tell us what happened in that regard.

xoxoxo

Christine
fender412002

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Has anyone noticed that your wife is very tired the next day after an intense session? Since we're aiming for R.E.M. I wonder if we're preventing the restorative aspect of R.E.M. It makes me think that consecutive nights might not be a good idea. Then again with s l e e p deprivation maybe the mind becomes more malleable. Any thoughts?
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hotcplindc

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So I found this thread several years ago, and have used it off-and-on ever since. It corresponds with experiences I've had in the personal trainer world; where suggestions can be used to overcome mental reservations and enhance performance. So I was comfortable with the science behind it.

I was less comfortable with the ethics of using it to - for example - encourage my wife to have sex with other men. But, over time, I was able to confirm through (normal) conversations that the idea was sort of sexy and appealing to her; but that she was far too shy and far too conventional to do something like that. I was much more comfortable using what I called "night whispers" to help her overcome those barriers.

So my wife is 14 years younger than me; and at a petite 5', looks even younger when she wants to (as a
professional woman, she usually doesn't). She's very sweet, shy, and submissive.

She's a deep *******, and actually takes a pain med, Gabepentin, which makes her ***** even deeper. I've used NWs with her to boost confidence; to help her with the discipline to get up early and work out; and to de-stress.

I also used night whispers to help her connect with her inner slut.

I used a lot of the techniques and suggestions from this thread. Beginning with her name; speaking quietly, monotonically, reassuringly. And I wrote-out a script; so that I used the exact same words everytime.

I also wanted to try and see if the NWs were working; were sinking-into her subconscious, and having an effect on her behavior. From the non-sexual examples cited above, I was pretty sure that they were: But I wasn't sure that the success would carry-over to the more erotic and potentially more "troubling" behaviors I wanted to evoke.

So one of the scripts I used fairly early on involved the following sentence: "Becky, your husband loves you; and he wants to know when you see a man that's attractive. So when you see a man you think is attractive, you will say to your husband "Look at that stud!" " The phrase was innocuous enough, but also not something she would usually say.

She said it; multiple times.

So, convinced that this would work, I began planting suggestions related to cuckolding. I always referred to myself as "your husband." And I interspersed cuckold whispers with reassuring ones. But never more than one cuckolding script per night. I'm neither small-dicked or Beta, so my narratives focused on the excitement of a new man; the adventure; the nastiness; and the good fuck she'd enjoy when I reclaimed her.

She's cuckolded me three times; all after rounds of whispers.

I just thought I'd share with y'all; In my circumstances, and for my wife, and for these specific behaviors, I am certain that this technique works. Different behaviors, different wife... it might not work.
brainbox1

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Sounds great! Tell us more about the cuckolding?
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Further to: What I intended to include was this: I wasn't comfortable with using night whispers to bend her will to do something that she didn't know about; and certainly not something she didn't want to do. So I only started using NW after we'd discussed IR sex, cuckolding, bulls, etc. Then I scripted whispers that ********** the things she'd indicated interest in, and that subtly pressed her on things she was jut "okay" with. I didn't ever try whispers with things she was (for the moment) opposed to; such as anal.

And, contrary to something I read somewhere on this thread, I let her read the NW scripts. I do some captioning here on this site, and made sure she knew how to find the captions. And we played a little game: I dared her to figure out which captions were written specifically with her and her NW scripts in mind. I even told her there was a graphic "tell" in all the captions I'd done just for her that, if she figured it out, would identify all of them for her fairly quickly (there wasn't;but it had her looking at the pictures and captions over-and-over again, and really studying them).

I told her about and let her read the scripts, but not ~all~ of the scripts. This, to my mind, cemented in her conscious that I was constructively engaging her sub-conscious, and gave her "excuses" or reasons for new behaviors. Whether the NWs prompted the new behaviors, or whether having the excuse available just allowed her to be less inhibited; either way we both win!

We're in a good place with all this. She knows I support her finding Bulls outside of our marriage. She knows I'm a bit kinky in this regard. She knows I've used night whispers, and that they've had positive affects on her confidence, discipline, and fitness. She suspects but doesn't "know" how the night whispers have affected her sexual tastes, appetites, and interests.
rain_maker1963

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The link from the first post did not go anywhere - is there a recent link?
hotcplindc

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For those who're interested.

So I've toyed with what y'all call "loving whispers" and I call "night whispers" off-and-on for several years. Overseas duty has sometimes interrupted this; as have other real-life dramas (like preparing for overseas duty, returning from overseas duty, etc). But I've used the technique for quite a while, and am fairly convinced that - specifically in our case - it works.

I'm a scientist/engineer by training, so validating practices interests me. For my LWs related to cuckolding, I developed about 8 main scripts that I used off-and-on over the years. That way I reinforce the same words and common themes. But I also interspersed among them other scripts dealing with self-esteem, fitness, discipline, etc. But for cuckolding, it was the same 8 scripts, saying the same basic things in different ways.

To see if the scripts were "moving" her at all, I identified several themes common to the cuckolding scripts: Would I have unrestricted access to her mouth? Her Pussy? Would I get to know about her dates? Select who she dates? Watch them have sex? Would I be expected to clean her pussy with my tongue? Would she go "black cock only" for periods of time? And, as something of a "control question," Would I have access to her ass (this as a control because she's hard-over adamant that anal sex won't happen; so that variable shouldn't change).

I wrote a really simple "survey monkey" app for her phone that used a variety of 60 questions (not all the questions every time) to elicit changes in the themes noted above. And I slipped into her NWs a suggestion that she would enjoy giving me glimpses of her opinions on cuckolding now and again. the app would ping her a couple of times a day for input. And it would aggregate the input to the 8 themes being tested. So that, essentially, I have data for every day (sometimes twice or even three times in one day) illustrating what, if any, changes there have been with respect to her perspectives.

These "spider charts" are a simple way to illustrate the data. There are four charts: One representing a "baseline," taken after just about a week of night whispers. Then "Round One" represents data taken on a single day (averaged where necessary) about a month later. Rounds Two and Three were each also taken about a month after the previous snapshot. I used the data from other intervening days to look for sudden points of discontinuity; and there were a few. She almost had a D/s relationship with a black guy she met at the gym, for example. During that period of time her perspectives on "BCO" and self confidence moved quite dramatically. After the "romance" petered-out, her perspectives returned to almost where they were before the event (but not quite; the experience did shift her perceptions more than just the night whispers alone were doing).

Any way; the graphic below shows that, in this completely unscientific, unreplicable study, my wife's perceptions WERE modified quite significantly by night whispers. I should note that she was a knowing participant (she knew that I used NWs, but didn't know when, or the specifics, unless/until I shared scripts with her); she was already a "hot wife," and was willing to consider the things I was encouraging her to do (with the exception of anal); and she's naturally submissive (and suggestible).

Separately, a year or so later, I did a similar experiment over several months where I used night whispers to try and change the color of nail polish she used. I thought this would be an easy way to see if the technique worked. If I could get her to use a certain nail polish using NWs, I'd have strong support for the technique. I'm sad to say, that experiment didn't work as well. I did get some changes in color and behavior (I suggested she re-color just her fingers or just her toes), but it didn't correlate particularly well with the whispers I'd been giving her. When, after the experiment ended, I shared the results with her, she responded "Silly boy: I'm not going to change something as important to who I am as nail polish on a whispered whim!"

~grin~ So that shows how women equate sex vs nail polish!


coonker

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Great research hotcplindc!

I'm not doing loving whispers myself (yet), but I thorougly love reading any updates from others that do use!
J Jones

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I have been using the method of whispering for two years on and off. My wife now responds positively when I tell her to imagine she is having sex with a black guy. I give her an instruction to lift and wiggle her ass if she wants a blackcock. This she does. I don't know what to do next. Any suggestions?
belbastone

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i restarted in these Holidays.. anyone progressed?
dickles

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To make things happen.
The suggestion should be along the line of.

You know it it is invitation to get fucked but you can not stop doing it.
When you see a BLACK MAN you have look him in the eye.
Then you have to look at his crotch.
Then you have to look him in the eye again and smile.
You know you will have to deal with MAN you gave permission to fuck you.
fender412002

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Zzzzz...
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Has anyone tried mixing suggestions into some of your wife's music and re-uploading it to her phone/mp3 player? It wouldn't be that hard to do using Audacity.
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